1 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:02,629 you're locked into inception radio 2 00:00:13,700 --> 00:00:10,290 network superior Wisconsin your tool in 3 00:00:17,689 --> 00:00:13,710 to night vision radio exposing the truth 4 00:00:20,090 --> 00:00:17,699 one secret at a time prepare yourself as 5 00:00:22,750 --> 00:00:20,100 we explore the shadow worlds of 6 00:00:26,089 --> 00:00:22,760 suppressed history secret knowledge 7 00:01:10,050 --> 00:00:26,099 forbidden religion and shine a light on 8 00:01:10,060 --> 00:01:15,040 welcome to night vision radio 9 00:01:20,030 --> 00:01:18,770 hey good evening everybody so happy that 10 00:01:21,770 --> 00:01:20,040 you joined us tonight I hope you're 11 00:01:28,100 --> 00:01:21,780 joining us in the live chat room by the 12 00:01:30,980 --> 00:01:28,110 way at ww inception radio network com I 13 00:01:33,110 --> 00:01:30,990 try to monitor that and in my producer 14 00:01:35,450 --> 00:01:33,120 bill helps out along with some of my 15 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:35,460 other chat roomies there to draw my 16 00:01:39,290 --> 00:01:36,930 attention to the questions that you 17 00:01:41,180 --> 00:01:39,300 might have so I hope you join us in 18 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:41,190 there we're pretty pretty lively in 19 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:43,170 there tonight we've got a great show 20 00:01:50,300 --> 00:01:47,610 planned my guest is a very special 21 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:50,310 person he's an ex-professional cop 22 00:01:55,850 --> 00:01:53,130 turned professional psychic medium and 23 00:01:59,060 --> 00:01:55,860 boy has he had some experiences that 24 00:02:00,950 --> 00:01:59,070 he's going to share with us but the best 25 00:02:04,370 --> 00:02:00,960 part about it is he's going to tell us 26 00:02:06,860 --> 00:02:04,380 how share with us how we can develop our 27 00:02:09,740 --> 00:02:06,870 own psychic abilities and I want to draw 28 00:02:12,830 --> 00:02:09,750 your attention just before I bring jeff 29 00:02:15,380 --> 00:02:12,840 on to his brand new book called so you 30 00:02:18,199 --> 00:02:15,390 want to be a psychic by Jeff Allen and 31 00:02:19,850 --> 00:02:18,209 you can google that you can go to jeffs 32 00:02:23,270 --> 00:02:19,860 website and i'm going to get him to tell 33 00:02:25,729 --> 00:02:23,280 us again what that is in just a moment 34 00:02:27,590 --> 00:02:25,739 but you should check out that book if 35 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:27,600 you have any interest in developing your 36 00:02:31,699 --> 00:02:29,970 own intuitive nature your own psychic 37 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:31,709 abilities I mean my gosh who doesn't I 38 00:02:36,979 --> 00:02:33,330 mean that's something that could help us 39 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:36,989 all in business and our social lives and 40 00:02:43,670 --> 00:02:41,610 our family in whatever so check out so 41 00:02:47,300 --> 00:02:43,680 I'm going to welcome right now psychic 42 00:02:49,250 --> 00:02:47,310 medium Jeff Allen hey Jeff hey thanks 43 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:49,260 for having me on today appreciate it and 44 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:53,370 welcoming hello from dreary cold Ohio oh 45 00:02:58,580 --> 00:02:56,970 my goodness I don't envy you right now I 46 00:03:01,160 --> 00:02:58,590 know I don't know if you guys are 47 00:03:03,920 --> 00:03:01,170 getting it but I spoke with a good 48 00:03:06,229 --> 00:03:03,930 friend of mine today I'm in a recurring 49 00:03:07,580 --> 00:03:06,239 guest on this show Gloria Amendola this 50 00:03:09,890 --> 00:03:07,590 afternoon she lives up in Connecticut 51 00:03:12,620 --> 00:03:09,900 and she said they were expecting a big 52 00:03:15,259 --> 00:03:12,630 storm to come in i think tomorrow night 53 00:03:17,479 --> 00:03:15,269 and so she wasn't looking forward to 54 00:03:20,290 --> 00:03:17,489 that she's been snowed in a quite a few 55 00:03:24,830 --> 00:03:20,300 times in the past couple of years so 56 00:03:26,479 --> 00:03:24,840 it's that what you do yes I think we're 57 00:03:27,860 --> 00:03:26,489 supposed to get hit also up here it's 58 00:03:30,229 --> 00:03:27,870 it's funny as this is this 59 00:03:33,289 --> 00:03:30,239 the first winter in Ohio I moved up from 60 00:03:35,990 --> 00:03:33,299 Galveston Island Texas so this is a new 61 00:03:37,789 --> 00:03:36,000 experience or one I haven't had since I 62 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:37,799 lived in Colorado but this is a whole 63 00:03:43,039 --> 00:03:41,370 different kind of cold than colorado I'm 64 00:03:44,869 --> 00:03:43,049 happy to be on well I think we're gonna 65 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:44,879 have some fun tonight on the show oh I 66 00:03:50,300 --> 00:03:46,890 think so too I mean we had a great 67 00:03:53,649 --> 00:03:50,310 conversation earlier in the day and what 68 00:03:55,699 --> 00:03:53,659 an interesting life that you've had and 69 00:03:59,210 --> 00:03:55,709 you know what an interesting life that 70 00:04:01,819 --> 00:03:59,220 you're having right now but now you you 71 00:04:04,550 --> 00:04:01,829 were an ex-cop but you already had these 72 00:04:09,770 --> 00:04:04,560 psychic abilities when you join the 73 00:04:12,470 --> 00:04:09,780 police force is that right yeah I've had 74 00:04:15,530 --> 00:04:12,480 it since I was as long as I can kind of 75 00:04:17,420 --> 00:04:15,540 remember and i was born in New Jersey 76 00:04:20,210 --> 00:04:17,430 and then at age seven we moved out to 77 00:04:23,330 --> 00:04:20,220 Gettysburg Pennsylvania and but just 78 00:04:25,310 --> 00:04:23,340 really good that's really what I really 79 00:04:28,010 --> 00:04:25,320 started to understand that there was 80 00:04:29,840 --> 00:04:28,020 there was something to this or I was I 81 00:04:34,940 --> 00:04:29,850 was able to pick up on things that that 82 00:04:37,190 --> 00:04:34,950 people didn't pick up on and live there 83 00:04:41,210 --> 00:04:37,200 till I was 14 and then at 14 ER we've 84 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:41,220 got Colorado and I depart in my family 85 00:04:45,170 --> 00:04:43,410 it wasn't spoken of it was one of those 86 00:04:47,570 --> 00:04:45,180 things where you don't talk about if you 87 00:04:49,580 --> 00:04:47,580 were going to think you're crazy just 88 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:49,590 with this your bags just a great 89 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:53,250 imagination okay quiet a lot of times 90 00:04:58,909 --> 00:04:55,370 you know when you hear about you know a 91 00:05:01,310 --> 00:04:58,919 child that you know is psychic from from 92 00:05:03,980 --> 00:05:01,320 day one there is someone else in the 93 00:05:06,170 --> 00:05:03,990 family or it seems to be generational or 94 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:06,180 something like that was er no one like 95 00:05:12,830 --> 00:05:09,570 that you just kind of cropped up the 96 00:05:17,180 --> 00:05:12,840 father what people I was I was adopted 97 00:05:19,310 --> 00:05:17,190 at birth and I was the only one about it 98 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:19,320 yeah when when I was born it was funny 99 00:05:24,020 --> 00:05:21,090 they told my mom she couldn't have kids 100 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:24,030 and I was born she got she was a month 101 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:26,010 pregnant with my brother and then she 102 00:05:30,740 --> 00:05:29,010 had my sisters behind him so I was the 103 00:05:35,150 --> 00:05:30,750 only one in the family with a different 104 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:35,160 genetic makeup so that it that really 105 00:05:38,690 --> 00:05:36,930 kind of fueled my fire to find out 106 00:05:41,230 --> 00:05:38,700 what's what's going on with this why am 107 00:05:43,689 --> 00:05:41,240 I the only one why don't they see 108 00:05:46,650 --> 00:05:43,699 I see her why don't they believe me kind 109 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:46,660 of thing so that that's where that hole 110 00:05:51,129 --> 00:05:48,289 interesting there's got to be a 111 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:51,139 scientific reason because when i was 21 112 00:05:55,950 --> 00:05:53,810 in colorado i went it went into the 113 00:05:58,450 --> 00:05:55,960 police academy and then became a cop and 114 00:06:01,570 --> 00:05:58,460 they don't give badges and guns the guys 115 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:01,580 talk to dead people so I just kept it 116 00:06:06,490 --> 00:06:04,490 quiet you know it's it's that's not good 117 00:06:08,620 --> 00:06:06,500 for promotions and good for hiring and 118 00:06:11,110 --> 00:06:08,630 yeah it's not about the public 119 00:06:13,029 --> 00:06:11,120 perception that that the public wants 120 00:06:16,830 --> 00:06:13,039 your cop local cop to have a gun that 121 00:06:19,930 --> 00:06:16,840 sees dead people so it was kept quiet 122 00:06:23,620 --> 00:06:19,940 but it was something that I always used 123 00:06:26,379 --> 00:06:23,630 to to assist but it was never documented 124 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:26,389 I just you know you did you just didn't 125 00:06:33,700 --> 00:06:30,770 do that and even now a cop it was what's 126 00:06:36,370 --> 00:06:33,710 funny is the cops all have you heard of 127 00:06:38,710 --> 00:06:36,380 the cop hunch and the cop hunch is very 128 00:06:41,469 --> 00:06:38,720 real and all the cops will tell you I 129 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:41,479 had a hunch yeah and hope they're not to 130 00:06:46,420 --> 00:06:42,650 be right but they don't believe in 131 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:46,430 psychic premonition they just call at 132 00:06:50,860 --> 00:06:48,770 that that's what it is because you're 133 00:06:53,020 --> 00:06:50,870 absolutely right you hear that very 134 00:06:56,350 --> 00:06:53,030 often I followed my hunch I followed my 135 00:06:59,370 --> 00:06:56,360 gut you know and and I think we do that 136 00:07:01,930 --> 00:06:59,380 a lot in our lives and we don't realize 137 00:07:05,620 --> 00:07:01,940 what we're doing and sometimes we deny 138 00:07:09,339 --> 00:07:05,630 our gut to in it turns out sometimes not 139 00:07:11,499 --> 00:07:09,349 so well yeah I think you were telling me 140 00:07:15,939 --> 00:07:11,509 earlier today that we really are 141 00:07:18,550 --> 00:07:15,949 equipped for this you know who knows why 142 00:07:20,709 --> 00:07:18,560 some people just seem to sprout up like 143 00:07:24,249 --> 00:07:20,719 that and others of us have to work on 144 00:07:26,309 --> 00:07:24,259 developing it but I think one of the 145 00:07:28,890 --> 00:07:26,319 things toward developing it is 146 00:07:31,749 --> 00:07:28,900 recognizing it when it's happening 147 00:07:33,430 --> 00:07:31,759 because I think we can do things you 148 00:07:35,620 --> 00:07:33,440 know what you think that someone and the 149 00:07:38,260 --> 00:07:35,630 phone rings and it's them and we just 150 00:07:40,300 --> 00:07:38,270 say oh what a coincidence you know but 151 00:07:42,459 --> 00:07:40,310 really you had a little premonition that 152 00:07:46,899 --> 00:07:42,469 you know of what was going to happen 153 00:07:49,209 --> 00:07:46,909 next another sort of thing so and I 154 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:49,219 think we shy away because of the stigma 155 00:07:54,820 --> 00:07:53,930 of the woowoo you know the psychic you 156 00:07:58,240 --> 00:07:54,830 know 157 00:08:00,520 --> 00:07:58,250 especially guys wouldn't want to talk 158 00:08:02,500 --> 00:08:00,530 about being you know intuitive or being 159 00:08:05,980 --> 00:08:02,510 a psychic because they think it doesn't 160 00:08:07,990 --> 00:08:05,990 sound macho for some reason but who 161 00:08:11,890 --> 00:08:08,000 wouldn't want to develop as much of 162 00:08:15,250 --> 00:08:11,900 their power as possible to navigate you 163 00:08:17,980 --> 00:08:15,260 know life I mean there's nothing fat you 164 00:08:20,050 --> 00:08:17,990 know feminine about that really all 165 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:20,060 right women do seem to be in touch with 166 00:08:25,990 --> 00:08:21,770 your intuitive side but anyone go ahead 167 00:08:28,090 --> 00:08:26,000 and talk about your your time as a cop 168 00:08:30,250 --> 00:08:28,100 or wherever you wanted to take it next I 169 00:08:32,110 --> 00:08:30,260 didn't mean to interrupt you no no 170 00:08:36,390 --> 00:08:32,120 that's fine it it's interesting though 171 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:36,400 when we talk about like the cop hunch or 172 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:39,770 how there are skeptics out there that 173 00:08:44,980 --> 00:08:41,930 that just say well this is this is a 174 00:08:47,470 --> 00:08:44,990 learned behavior or you're just a good 175 00:08:48,610 --> 00:08:47,480 guesser and I said you know I say those 176 00:08:49,660 --> 00:08:48,620 people thought was that good a guess 177 00:08:53,290 --> 00:08:49,670 there I'd have done better in high 178 00:08:55,660 --> 00:08:53,300 school so it's it's not I'm not I'm not 179 00:08:57,250 --> 00:08:55,670 playing with what I'm not rolling a ball 180 00:08:59,680 --> 00:08:57,260 around a wheel and hoping it lands on 181 00:09:03,700 --> 00:08:59,690 number 27 it's it's just something that 182 00:09:06,430 --> 00:09:03,710 I see and then feel and in it comes down 183 00:09:07,990 --> 00:09:06,440 to creativity even where does creativity 184 00:09:10,750 --> 00:09:08,000 come from there there's a whole dialogue 185 00:09:13,350 --> 00:09:10,760 we can have on that and if we want to 186 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:13,360 take it down to just an elementary type 187 00:09:19,060 --> 00:09:16,370 example I tell a skeptic I said I asked 188 00:09:21,010 --> 00:09:19,070 them have you ever caught a baseball or 189 00:09:23,380 --> 00:09:21,020 a viewer so someone ever tossed you a 190 00:09:26,020 --> 00:09:23,390 set of keys and you caught it and the 191 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:26,030 stable course well how did you know 192 00:09:29,650 --> 00:09:27,770 where the keys were going to land how 193 00:09:32,770 --> 00:09:29,660 did you know where the ball at how does 194 00:09:34,300 --> 00:09:32,780 an outfielder smeal no stay in there and 195 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:34,310 catch a ball unless he's going to 196 00:09:39,730 --> 00:09:35,450 predict where that ball is going to go 197 00:09:42,220 --> 00:09:39,740 and then catch the ball now sure you can 198 00:09:46,060 --> 00:09:42,230 learn the balls trajectory and what have 199 00:09:48,660 --> 00:09:46,070 you but the and every every instance of 200 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:48,670 a fly ball and baseball is different 201 00:09:53,890 --> 00:09:51,050 whether it lands in the same spot or not 202 00:09:57,610 --> 00:09:53,900 but the atmospheric conditions can be 203 00:10:00,400 --> 00:09:57,620 can influence it the the barometric 204 00:10:02,680 --> 00:10:00,410 pressure wind all that how does how does 205 00:10:04,300 --> 00:10:02,690 the how does a person in a baseball 206 00:10:07,510 --> 00:10:04,310 field catch ball let's make predict 207 00:10:08,380 --> 00:10:07,520 words can fall so there's there's a lot 208 00:10:11,230 --> 00:10:08,390 to it 209 00:10:13,750 --> 00:10:11,240 and that's that's what I kind of get him 210 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:13,760 to you a little bit in the book is how 211 00:10:20,260 --> 00:10:17,330 the scientific aspect of it in our brain 212 00:10:23,380 --> 00:10:20,270 chemistry was an electrical fire storm 213 00:10:25,870 --> 00:10:23,390 and how that participates in psychic 214 00:10:28,930 --> 00:10:25,880 work so as well as the spiritual side I 215 00:10:30,790 --> 00:10:28,940 really feel that that as mediums as 216 00:10:33,730 --> 00:10:30,800 psychic says people who are sensitives 217 00:10:37,090 --> 00:10:33,740 they they are the bridge that connects 218 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:37,100 science and spirit and we just we're 219 00:10:43,180 --> 00:10:40,130 working on getting tools to measure this 220 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:43,190 but we just don't have the I guess 221 00:10:50,290 --> 00:10:46,850 enough tools or enough case studies yet 222 00:10:52,780 --> 00:10:50,300 to prove that spirits exist unless I 223 00:10:55,690 --> 00:10:52,790 mean I'm kind of in the school right now 224 00:10:58,420 --> 00:10:55,700 of where there's so many paranormal 225 00:11:01,210 --> 00:10:58,430 shows on TV there's so much so many 226 00:11:03,730 --> 00:11:01,220 clips and and and what have you online 227 00:11:07,180 --> 00:11:03,740 that it's almost ridiculous to think 228 00:11:08,860 --> 00:11:07,190 that there isn't such thing as ghosts or 229 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:08,870 spirits or energies that are out there 230 00:11:14,530 --> 00:11:12,530 and that's going to work where I kind of 231 00:11:16,300 --> 00:11:14,540 go with the book a little bit is going 232 00:11:18,670 --> 00:11:16,310 into the theory of electricity or how it 233 00:11:20,580 --> 00:11:18,680 plays into communication with spirits 234 00:11:23,710 --> 00:11:20,590 and health spirits use electricity to 235 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:23,720 communicate and that's that's where I 236 00:11:28,900 --> 00:11:25,730 kind of went with that but back to my 237 00:11:32,770 --> 00:11:28,910 law enforcement days it's it was very 238 00:11:35,260 --> 00:11:32,780 the the the energies that you use and 239 00:11:38,230 --> 00:11:35,270 and the ability to pick up on people for 240 00:11:40,030 --> 00:11:38,240 instance there are times when you might 241 00:11:41,470 --> 00:11:40,040 go on a traffic stop and you're you're 242 00:11:42,940 --> 00:11:41,480 the hair on the back your neck stands up 243 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:42,950 and says okay sometimes it's not right 244 00:11:48,940 --> 00:11:45,170 here something doesn't feel right either 245 00:11:52,660 --> 00:11:48,950 the guy is giving off a weird vibe so to 246 00:11:55,540 --> 00:11:52,670 speak there's something not right it 247 00:11:59,080 --> 00:11:55,550 causes the officer to be alarmed or like 248 00:12:00,280 --> 00:11:59,090 on a building search you know you every 249 00:12:03,190 --> 00:12:00,290 cop has done hundreds of built a 250 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:03,200 building searches well there's always 251 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:04,850 that one search that you go wait a 252 00:12:09,550 --> 00:12:06,770 minute something's in here I can't see 253 00:12:11,590 --> 00:12:09,560 it I can't hear it but I feel it I feel 254 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:11,600 like there's someone hiding in here and 255 00:12:17,860 --> 00:12:15,050 they'll be right so these these are all 256 00:12:21,370 --> 00:12:17,870 these are all under your ability to pick 257 00:12:22,110 --> 00:12:21,380 up on energies is it you get the feeling 258 00:12:24,780 --> 00:12:22,120 that you be 259 00:12:29,190 --> 00:12:24,790 watched and you turn around and somebody 260 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:29,200 is staring right at you you know yo GABA 261 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:31,450 know that you know if your back was 262 00:12:41,670 --> 00:12:35,890 turned and then how can you know that 263 00:12:45,150 --> 00:12:41,680 there's a big sense yeah yeah and it has 264 00:12:48,900 --> 00:12:45,160 to do you say with basically electricity 265 00:12:52,110 --> 00:12:48,910 i mean our bodies are electric so that 266 00:12:54,150 --> 00:12:52,120 makes aggressive and that's that's just 267 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:54,160 an e if you get into the side of getting 268 00:12:58,590 --> 00:12:56,650 into the science side of it or if you 269 00:13:01,950 --> 00:12:58,600 think about it our brains are made up of 270 00:13:05,100 --> 00:13:01,960 electrical fire storms and that's proven 271 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:05,110 that's a fact and our heart what happens 272 00:13:09,570 --> 00:13:08,050 when a person has a heart attack your 273 00:13:13,019 --> 00:13:09,580 heart stops what do you use to start it 274 00:13:16,230 --> 00:13:13,029 back up electricity they make sure the 275 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:16,240 defibrillator paddles and so nothing 276 00:13:22,140 --> 00:13:18,370 about the electrical energy in our 277 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:22,150 bodies and and their connection to life 278 00:13:28,680 --> 00:13:26,770 and consciousness well if you if you 279 00:13:33,060 --> 00:13:28,690 look down scientifically at it even more 280 00:13:36,810 --> 00:13:33,070 so the electrical energy doesn't just 281 00:13:38,579 --> 00:13:36,820 disappear it doesn't die it transfers so 282 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:38,589 when we die that electrical energy in 283 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:41,050 our body has to go somewhere it comes 284 00:13:45,660 --> 00:13:43,050 from somewhere and it goes to somewhere 285 00:13:48,300 --> 00:13:45,670 we're constantly exchanging electrical 286 00:13:50,550 --> 00:13:48,310 energy you know you if you walk across 287 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:50,560 the floor in February or January now and 288 00:13:55,410 --> 00:13:52,050 you touch doorknob and you give that 289 00:13:57,449 --> 00:13:55,420 you're picking up static electricity if 290 00:14:00,240 --> 00:13:57,459 you run your hand across a TV screen 291 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:00,250 that's been turned off you feel the 292 00:14:05,100 --> 00:14:02,290 static electricity on it but you can't 293 00:14:07,079 --> 00:14:05,110 see it if you pop a winter green 294 00:14:08,790 --> 00:14:07,089 lifesaver in your mouth and turn out the 295 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:08,800 lights go stand in front of a mirror and 296 00:14:14,820 --> 00:14:11,410 chew on it with your mouth open you can 297 00:14:16,890 --> 00:14:14,830 see the sparks but you can't feel it so 298 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:16,900 there are electrical energies out there 299 00:14:23,070 --> 00:14:20,050 that we can see but not feel and feel 300 00:14:25,140 --> 00:14:23,080 but not see so it's almost ridiculous 301 00:14:28,290 --> 00:14:25,150 when a skeptic tells me that ghosts 302 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:28,300 don't exist when we can prove that there 303 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:30,250 are energies out there when paranormal 304 00:14:35,580 --> 00:14:33,490 teams the one who investigation what 305 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:35,590 what usually malfunctions 306 00:14:42,690 --> 00:14:38,770 their electrical equipment their battery 307 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:42,700 is drained their cameras dialed there's 308 00:14:49,350 --> 00:14:46,090 all type of and when they pick up EVPs 309 00:14:53,190 --> 00:14:49,360 their ear can't hear it but the digital 310 00:14:56,220 --> 00:14:53,200 recorder may and smash people you know 311 00:14:57,990 --> 00:14:56,230 and was it's a new with you know I was I 312 00:15:00,570 --> 00:14:58,000 was telling you earlier and a lot of 313 00:15:02,730 --> 00:15:00,580 people that listen to the show know that 314 00:15:06,330 --> 00:15:02,740 you know I have this orb phenomenon in 315 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:06,340 my house and I don't see them with the 316 00:15:11,850 --> 00:15:09,010 naked eye but I can see them for the 317 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:11,860 camera and they can they're caught on 318 00:15:16,410 --> 00:15:13,570 film like and I can you know you can see 319 00:15:19,620 --> 00:15:16,420 them on film later well why do you think 320 00:15:22,380 --> 00:15:19,630 that is that's and you know that's 321 00:15:24,570 --> 00:15:22,390 interesting and that's these bits of 322 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:24,580 electrical energies that are resident 323 00:15:32,310 --> 00:15:28,090 all around us those those are your orbs 324 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:32,320 and matter of fact if those in chat want 325 00:15:38,910 --> 00:15:34,330 to go to out to youtube and search my 326 00:15:41,700 --> 00:15:38,920 name and Beth Dearing which is de are 327 00:15:44,310 --> 00:15:41,710 ing dears and like Dearing ism like the 328 00:15:46,620 --> 00:15:44,320 animal they search those two names on 329 00:15:50,670 --> 00:15:46,630 youtube you'll find a couple of videos 330 00:15:54,060 --> 00:15:50,680 we took September 26th at a coffeehouse 331 00:15:57,030 --> 00:15:54,070 where we were doing a live broadcast of 332 00:15:59,640 --> 00:15:57,040 a radio program and what happens we've 333 00:16:03,120 --> 00:15:59,650 set up camera on a tripod to just get 334 00:16:05,550 --> 00:16:03,130 some promotional video well after the 335 00:16:09,570 --> 00:16:05,560 Duc tho I want to say about 20 minutes 336 00:16:12,330 --> 00:16:09,580 into the recording I look up and there's 337 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:12,340 a flash on the camera went out and so I 338 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:13,810 thought well great this camera was 339 00:16:19,050 --> 00:16:16,810 plugged in it should have died like that 340 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:19,060 I wonder if it just we hit the end of 341 00:16:22,530 --> 00:16:21,130 our data or something and shut down and 342 00:16:25,170 --> 00:16:22,540 we had someone go behind the camera and 343 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:25,180 look and the Gabriel was still rolling 344 00:16:30,540 --> 00:16:26,890 but the flash went out for some reason 345 00:16:33,030 --> 00:16:30,550 and what happened was is we went back 346 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:33,040 and reviewed the data now a lot of it 347 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:35,530 was corrupted that night and we lost 348 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:37,690 about two gigs worth of data of delving 349 00:16:42,510 --> 00:16:40,690 but we were able to recover about 42 min 350 00:16:47,460 --> 00:16:42,520 43 minutes of it as we start going 351 00:16:49,810 --> 00:16:47,470 through it it's it for for what I was 352 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:49,820 viewing it as as a promotional 353 00:16:55,230 --> 00:16:52,250 video was garbage because there was so 354 00:16:59,290 --> 00:16:55,240 much interference with these blue dots 355 00:17:02,380 --> 00:16:59,300 and that looks at oh my god those are a 356 00:17:05,230 --> 00:17:02,390 bunch of orbs and I said oh let me look 357 00:17:07,030 --> 00:17:05,240 and we looked and we posted those videos 358 00:17:09,069 --> 00:17:07,040 on YouTube it's pretty interesting at 359 00:17:11,980 --> 00:17:09,079 the Dozen chat and the listeners want to 360 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:11,990 check those out the the first verse 361 00:17:16,270 --> 00:17:13,850 video is a four-minute video we caught 362 00:17:20,319 --> 00:17:16,280 11 orbs in that first four minutes so 363 00:17:24,939 --> 00:17:20,329 you go to go to youtube and put in jeff 364 00:17:30,460 --> 00:17:24,949 allen and that's GE 0 FF allen a llen 365 00:17:33,790 --> 00:17:30,470 and Beth Dearing de e RI ng and you can 366 00:17:36,910 --> 00:17:33,800 find those that video with the orbs in 367 00:17:39,220 --> 00:17:36,920 it any second equity is if their data on 368 00:17:42,490 --> 00:17:39,230 it it's the sep tember 26 date on it or 369 00:17:45,370 --> 00:17:42,500 some identifying they are yes it says 370 00:17:48,940 --> 00:17:45,380 the title says something like or you 371 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:48,950 know ? orbs caught on camera and it's 372 00:17:55,060 --> 00:17:51,650 it's Freddie has dated the 26th of last 373 00:17:56,980 --> 00:17:55,070 year 26 of September last year they can 374 00:17:58,060 --> 00:17:56,990 they can review that it's it's of those 375 00:18:00,070 --> 00:17:58,070 are pretty there's three different 376 00:18:01,510 --> 00:18:00,080 videos up there one's a two-minute the 377 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:01,520 two-minute one shows where the flash 378 00:18:05,140 --> 00:18:03,290 actually goes out and you can see my 379 00:18:07,450 --> 00:18:05,150 reaction in front of the camera I look 380 00:18:09,370 --> 00:18:07,460 at and go and I'm putting the camera i 381 00:18:11,170 --> 00:18:09,380 posted someone off-camera and I'm like 382 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:11,180 can you check that out cuz we were we 383 00:18:13,410 --> 00:18:12,530 were in the middle of a live broadcast I 384 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:13,420 couldn't just stop the broadcast 385 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:18,050 yourself and the the formative video was 386 00:18:24,010 --> 00:18:21,290 very interesting was the the autofocus 387 00:18:27,070 --> 00:18:24,020 failed in that four-minute video at one 388 00:18:29,410 --> 00:18:27,080 point but it also functions flawlessly 389 00:18:31,540 --> 00:18:29,420 at another point in the video so prior 390 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:31,550 to it failing you see the autofocus was 391 00:18:36,010 --> 00:18:33,530 great and then for some reason you ought 392 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:36,020 to focus one out and then came back in 393 00:18:40,930 --> 00:18:37,730 at the end of the tape at the end of the 394 00:18:43,060 --> 00:18:40,940 four minute segment so something was 395 00:18:45,310 --> 00:18:43,070 going on there's also an EMF detector in 396 00:18:47,590 --> 00:18:45,320 that video that you can see the red 397 00:18:49,690 --> 00:18:47,600 light flashing on it throughout the 398 00:18:51,220 --> 00:18:49,700 video so we had there was something 399 00:18:54,430 --> 00:18:51,230 there was something electrical going on 400 00:18:57,340 --> 00:18:54,440 in the room at the time so these are 401 00:19:00,760 --> 00:18:57,350 these things are are interesting and 402 00:19:02,350 --> 00:19:00,770 there are so many videos like this out 403 00:19:03,670 --> 00:19:02,360 there that have been captured by 404 00:19:05,620 --> 00:19:03,680 different people and 405 00:19:08,740 --> 00:19:05,630 and I have a hard time thinking that 406 00:19:10,030 --> 00:19:08,750 this many people think these things you 407 00:19:12,220 --> 00:19:10,040 know are some of them explainable 408 00:19:15,990 --> 00:19:12,230 absolutely now these videos were sent 409 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:16,000 off to people in film production and 410 00:19:20,650 --> 00:19:19,010 photographers and and we haven't the 411 00:19:22,870 --> 00:19:20,660 only thing anyone has been able to say 412 00:19:25,570 --> 00:19:22,880 is that it's they said that it's not 413 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:25,580 insects it's not dust and it's not lens 414 00:19:30,850 --> 00:19:28,250 flare but they can't say what it is yeah 415 00:19:36,750 --> 00:19:30,860 and that's that to me is a validation of 416 00:19:40,210 --> 00:19:36,760 well you know I know what it is exactly 417 00:19:43,390 --> 00:19:40,220 and I think will be orbs what they are 418 00:19:46,330 --> 00:19:43,400 in the experience collect molecular 419 00:19:47,980 --> 00:19:46,340 energy they need it to communicate its 420 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:47,990 there's a they needed for their 421 00:19:54,910 --> 00:19:50,930 consciousness and if you think about it 422 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:54,920 a spirit in order for them to say move a 423 00:20:00,070 --> 00:19:56,770 coffee cup of costs across the table 424 00:20:03,340 --> 00:20:00,080 requires a lot of energy when you don't 425 00:20:04,930 --> 00:20:03,350 have a physical form can a lightning 426 00:20:06,490 --> 00:20:04,940 bolt move it absolutely we see it all 427 00:20:09,820 --> 00:20:06,500 the time lightning bolt will knock down 428 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:09,830 a tree so a little amount of energy 429 00:20:16,330 --> 00:20:12,890 going to move a coffee cup sure but it 430 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:16,340 would require quite a bit even less than 431 00:20:21,790 --> 00:20:19,010 that energy would be something like a 432 00:20:24,550 --> 00:20:21,800 whisper in someone's ear so it is clear 433 00:20:26,410 --> 00:20:24,560 audio where they just need to barely 434 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:26,420 move there the muscles in here that the 435 00:20:31,390 --> 00:20:29,450 bones in the eardrum and that's if we 436 00:20:33,070 --> 00:20:31,400 think about that what are the most 437 00:20:36,370 --> 00:20:33,080 sensitive bones in your body would be 438 00:20:39,100 --> 00:20:36,380 the ones in your ear drums and those so 439 00:20:41,590 --> 00:20:39,110 what would be common for them to have to 440 00:20:43,630 --> 00:20:41,600 manipulate to move something in your 441 00:20:46,930 --> 00:20:43,640 body to communicate with you naturally 442 00:20:50,290 --> 00:20:46,940 be in your ear now as far as a vision 443 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:50,300 that might be even easier in other words 444 00:20:54,910 --> 00:20:52,490 the third eye if they're wanting to 445 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:54,920 communicate with the spirit that would 446 00:20:57,760 --> 00:20:56,450 be a little bit easier because then they 447 00:21:00,700 --> 00:20:57,770 don't have to move anything they just 448 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:00,710 have to plant a seed in the brain and 449 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:02,930 communicate that way through electricity 450 00:21:07,060 --> 00:21:05,090 because that's that's our power plant is 451 00:21:11,020 --> 00:21:07,070 in the brain with our pineal gland and 452 00:21:14,380 --> 00:21:11,030 all that so that is even easier for them 453 00:21:17,390 --> 00:21:14,390 to manipulate smells the smell doesn't 454 00:21:20,090 --> 00:21:17,400 require really any physical 455 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:20,100 infestation same with a taste when i get 456 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:22,170 tastes in my mouth it's just a 457 00:21:26,780 --> 00:21:23,930 manipulation of a taste buds versus 458 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:26,790 manipulation of the olfactory nerves in 459 00:21:32,420 --> 00:21:28,530 your nose and that goes straight to the 460 00:21:35,120 --> 00:21:32,430 brain so those are those are require 461 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:35,130 less energy for these entities so 462 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:37,770 listeners when you hear people talking 463 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:41,250 about you know I smelled my mother's 464 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:44,970 perfume you know suddenly you know in 465 00:21:53,300 --> 00:21:48,810 the room is the smell in the room or is 466 00:21:57,860 --> 00:21:53,310 it in their nose it's it's my belief 467 00:22:01,010 --> 00:21:57,870 that it's both and it can be yeah for 468 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:01,020 instance I did a session with Beth back 469 00:22:05,660 --> 00:22:03,930 in November it was really interesting we 470 00:22:09,020 --> 00:22:05,670 SAT there know when when I go to a 471 00:22:11,180 --> 00:22:09,030 session and likewise with that she's a 472 00:22:14,780 --> 00:22:11,190 very gifted media and we do a lot of 473 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:14,790 events together well when we go we don't 474 00:22:20,390 --> 00:22:18,210 wear perfumes we don't smoke we don't we 475 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:20,400 don't want any where we don't want to 476 00:22:26,390 --> 00:22:23,730 contaminate the area that we're in with 477 00:22:28,550 --> 00:22:26,400 our own sense so to speak that way 478 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:28,560 hoping comes through we can smell it 479 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:29,970 well as we're sitting there in this 480 00:22:35,360 --> 00:22:32,970 session we started talking about how 481 00:22:39,020 --> 00:22:35,370 this what the saurian man's grandfather 482 00:22:41,740 --> 00:22:39,030 was coming through and Beth says boy as 483 00:22:46,550 --> 00:22:41,750 she goes I'm smelling Aqua Velva and 484 00:22:48,770 --> 00:22:46,560 yeah well I grandpa's were no no Aqua 485 00:22:50,570 --> 00:22:48,780 Velva back then and so I light weights 486 00:22:52,700 --> 00:22:50,580 and seated yet I was all that he would 487 00:22:54,230 --> 00:22:52,710 he tweaked of it well what was 488 00:22:56,150 --> 00:22:54,240 interesting world wipes was sitting 489 00:22:57,970 --> 00:22:56,160 probably about three feet away from Beth 490 00:23:00,710 --> 00:22:57,980 and I was like I could smell it too and 491 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:00,720 what was fun was we got the gentleman up 492 00:23:04,820 --> 00:23:02,730 from across the room and we said come 493 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:04,830 over here and sit here and as soon as he 494 00:23:08,510 --> 00:23:06,090 said there because that's my grandfather 495 00:23:10,100 --> 00:23:08,520 I could smell it and I stood up and went 496 00:23:14,870 --> 00:23:10,110 over to his wife and I said look it's 497 00:23:17,420 --> 00:23:14,880 not me smell me is it and they're like 498 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:17,430 no you don't smell like now and I said 499 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:20,250 go stand over there and Beth walked away 500 00:23:26,330 --> 00:23:24,690 you know and I said smell bad because 501 00:23:28,730 --> 00:23:26,340 she doesn't smell like it but when you 502 00:23:30,290 --> 00:23:28,740 sat down in the seat it smelled like how 503 00:23:30,670 --> 00:23:30,300 you can smell the Aqua Velva and it was 504 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:30,680 very 505 00:23:36,070 --> 00:23:34,250 temporary and so it wasn't like we we 506 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:36,080 planted the smell or anything like that 507 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:40,010 it dissipated so that was their 508 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:42,170 validation that yeah this is him as well 509 00:23:46,360 --> 00:23:43,850 as other you know things that were 510 00:23:50,650 --> 00:23:46,370 coming through to us as mediums that we 511 00:23:55,630 --> 00:23:50,660 were able to relate to the folks but it 512 00:23:59,770 --> 00:23:55,640 was the smells are very common and and 513 00:24:01,720 --> 00:23:59,780 you can use them to to almost and I want 514 00:24:03,940 --> 00:24:01,730 to be careful how I put this you can 515 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:03,950 almost use them to identify also 516 00:24:08,970 --> 00:24:06,170 negative entities because I do 517 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:08,980 deliverances and I've worked with with 518 00:24:15,190 --> 00:24:12,050 demonics and cleansing those types of 519 00:24:16,930 --> 00:24:15,200 things when you say when you say you do 520 00:24:20,110 --> 00:24:16,940 deliverances that you know as some 521 00:24:21,730 --> 00:24:20,120 people might call those casting out 522 00:24:25,930 --> 00:24:21,740 demons and some people might call that 523 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:25,940 an exorcism but right but but it's all 524 00:24:32,410 --> 00:24:30,050 the same thing basically right in with 525 00:24:35,260 --> 00:24:32,420 ya and that's where you get into an 526 00:24:37,210 --> 00:24:35,270 exorcism is a right done by a Catholic 527 00:24:40,140 --> 00:24:37,220 priest I'm not a Catholic priests that 528 00:24:43,150 --> 00:24:40,150 are not Catholic so I don't do exorcisms 529 00:24:46,090 --> 00:24:43,160 that's that's an exorcism is an actual 530 00:24:47,860 --> 00:24:46,100 right by the Catholic Church yeah and so 531 00:24:50,140 --> 00:24:47,870 they're the one will do those but 532 00:24:51,850 --> 00:24:50,150 everyone else will do what you call it 533 00:24:54,700 --> 00:24:51,860 delivers it's the same casting out 534 00:24:56,290 --> 00:24:54,710 demons and you know cleansing the 535 00:24:59,080 --> 00:24:56,300 cleansing those that are being formatted 536 00:25:02,050 --> 00:24:59,090 and so it's the same thing just by its 537 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:02,060 you know by a rose by any other name so 538 00:25:09,820 --> 00:25:04,730 that could be in a person in that could 539 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:09,830 be in a home absolutely and that's 540 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:12,890 that's that happens now you've got 541 00:25:18,450 --> 00:25:14,930 different types of possessions and 542 00:25:21,580 --> 00:25:18,460 oppressions and and ways that they the 543 00:25:25,570 --> 00:25:21,590 negative entities can influence and 544 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:25,580 torment and so it's so it doesn't it's 545 00:25:28,930 --> 00:25:27,770 not necessarily always like the movies 546 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:28,940 where you got the head spinning around 547 00:25:34,330 --> 00:25:31,730 and throw it up and all that they can 548 00:25:37,060 --> 00:25:34,340 they can affect you psychologically they 549 00:25:38,460 --> 00:25:37,070 will they'll do all their they're all 550 00:25:41,700 --> 00:25:38,470 they'll do all kinds of things and 551 00:25:43,570 --> 00:25:41,710 what's interesting was i did a I did 552 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:43,580 deliverance there 553 00:25:49,870 --> 00:25:48,410 in December where the while the lady 554 00:25:51,580 --> 00:25:49,880 called me and said hey we've got 555 00:25:53,620 --> 00:25:51,590 something we think running around our 556 00:25:55,780 --> 00:25:53,630 house well there's a there's an 557 00:25:58,120 --> 00:25:55,790 interview process that we go through to 558 00:26:01,300 --> 00:25:58,130 determine if this is mental illness or 559 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:01,310 if it's an actual spirit versus look if 560 00:26:06,070 --> 00:26:02,810 we determine there is something 561 00:26:07,980 --> 00:26:06,080 paranormal going on what type of 562 00:26:11,500 --> 00:26:07,990 paranormal is it something that's just 563 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:11,510 upset or is it something that's just mmm 564 00:26:17,650 --> 00:26:14,210 interfering or is it something truly 565 00:26:21,940 --> 00:26:17,660 demonic which is rare it's very rare you 566 00:26:25,270 --> 00:26:21,950 can have an entity that's angry but not 567 00:26:27,730 --> 00:26:25,280 demonic and so you really there's a 568 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:27,740 whole interview process and an approach 569 00:26:32,410 --> 00:26:30,650 to all this that that you go through to 570 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:32,420 before you go running in especially as a 571 00:26:36,550 --> 00:26:34,970 media because you don't just want to go 572 00:26:39,430 --> 00:26:36,560 running in there and say okay it's a 573 00:26:41,050 --> 00:26:39,440 demon and do your hocus-pocus thing and 574 00:26:44,470 --> 00:26:41,060 it's gone it doesn't work that way 575 00:26:45,940 --> 00:26:44,480 there's a counseling that you do to make 576 00:26:48,490 --> 00:26:45,950 sure this doesn't get welcome back in 577 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:48,500 once you get rid of it that you got to 578 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:49,850 find out the history of the house 579 00:26:57,910 --> 00:26:52,970 there's all kinds of stuff because not 580 00:27:00,970 --> 00:26:57,920 necessarily every spirit had a Christian 581 00:27:03,550 --> 00:27:00,980 walk for instance and if you're using 582 00:27:06,250 --> 00:27:03,560 Christian tools against the spirit that 583 00:27:08,950 --> 00:27:06,260 didn't believe in Christianity they're 584 00:27:11,110 --> 00:27:08,960 gonna laugh at you so for instance you 585 00:27:12,940 --> 00:27:11,120 may have an angry Native American spirit 586 00:27:15,580 --> 00:27:12,950 that had a Native American walk while he 587 00:27:18,070 --> 00:27:15,590 was here and then what he crossed over 588 00:27:20,830 --> 00:27:18,080 your view built the house on his turf 589 00:27:24,130 --> 00:27:20,840 and he's not happy about it or whatever 590 00:27:25,750 --> 00:27:24,140 and that Native American merit your ear 591 00:27:27,820 --> 00:27:25,760 Christian tools is aren't going to be 592 00:27:30,850 --> 00:27:27,830 effective against it because it doesn't 593 00:27:34,900 --> 00:27:30,860 believe in your tools and as well as 594 00:27:38,260 --> 00:27:34,910 demonic entities their network that had 595 00:27:40,630 --> 00:27:38,270 a cursing walked they you can be 596 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:40,640 effective but you got to watch it now 597 00:27:44,650 --> 00:27:43,010 there's it's not it's not there's a 598 00:27:46,510 --> 00:27:44,660 there's no cookie cutter solution I 599 00:27:49,150 --> 00:27:46,520 guess is what I'm trying to say so 600 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:49,160 that's that's what gets interesting this 601 00:27:52,930 --> 00:27:51,530 kind of stuff and that's what my next 602 00:27:56,170 --> 00:27:52,940 book is going to be about is how to do 603 00:27:56,830 --> 00:27:56,180 cleansing Xand and what have you because 604 00:28:04,360 --> 00:27:56,840 there 605 00:28:06,789 --> 00:28:04,370 don't have a physical form so they've 606 00:28:10,269 --> 00:28:06,799 got access to knowledge is that you 607 00:28:12,490 --> 00:28:10,279 don't have so they're very smart and 608 00:28:14,500 --> 00:28:12,500 they will they will they will trick the 609 00:28:18,100 --> 00:28:14,510 line will deceive if it's truly demonic 610 00:28:21,669 --> 00:28:18,110 if it's something that's just angry you 611 00:28:22,899 --> 00:28:21,679 can you still out gun but there's a 612 00:28:25,570 --> 00:28:22,909 business whole level in other words 613 00:28:27,850 --> 00:28:25,580 there's a hierarchy it's there's a whole 614 00:28:31,779 --> 00:28:27,860 hierarchy to energy and how it 615 00:28:35,070 --> 00:28:31,789 coagulates so that's it's an interesting 616 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:35,080 field and I'm constantly talking with 617 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:40,490 historians clergy people who really know 618 00:28:46,799 --> 00:28:42,770 about these things and different walks 619 00:28:49,450 --> 00:28:46,809 look-ins pagans the whole nine yards I 620 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:49,460 surround myself with very very 621 00:28:52,930 --> 00:28:51,890 resourceful people that know what 622 00:28:55,060 --> 00:28:52,940 they're doing with really good 623 00:28:57,159 --> 00:28:55,070 experience because I I don't know 624 00:28:59,620 --> 00:28:57,169 sometimes and nine times out of ten oh I 625 00:29:01,750 --> 00:28:59,630 don't know so I've got to call people 626 00:29:03,340 --> 00:29:01,760 who do and find out what I'm going up 627 00:29:05,289 --> 00:29:03,350 against as a medium so that I don't get 628 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:05,299 myself into trouble or getting over my 629 00:29:11,500 --> 00:29:08,570 head which I've done and it's it's not a 630 00:29:14,019 --> 00:29:11,510 pleasant place to be ya know we were 631 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:14,029 going to have to take a break but we had 632 00:29:17,409 --> 00:29:16,010 a question from the chat room about you 633 00:29:20,260 --> 00:29:17,419 know what are some of the indicators 634 00:29:22,659 --> 00:29:20,270 that you might have some kind of a 635 00:29:24,580 --> 00:29:22,669 negative entity in your house and I'm 636 00:29:28,820 --> 00:29:24,590 going to let you talk about that when we 637 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:32,820 you're listening to Ira the inception 638 00:29:47,530 --> 00:29:45,400 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00:32:35,310 --> 00:32:33,419 hey welcome back you are listening to 694 00:32:38,549 --> 00:32:35,320 night vision radio I'm your host Renee 695 00:32:40,950 --> 00:32:38,559 Barnett and talking with me tonight or 696 00:32:44,340 --> 00:32:40,960 with us tonight is Jeff Allen he's a 697 00:32:47,190 --> 00:32:44,350 former cop and a professional psychic 698 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:47,200 medium and Jeff before we went to the 699 00:32:52,259 --> 00:32:49,090 break we had a question from the chat 700 00:32:55,049 --> 00:32:52,269 room about we've been talking about 701 00:32:56,399 --> 00:32:55,059 house cleansing and the like and you 702 00:32:58,289 --> 00:32:56,409 were saying you know sort of each case 703 00:33:00,240 --> 00:32:58,299 is different and you don't just jump to 704 00:33:02,779 --> 00:33:00,250 the conclusion oh gee there's a demon in 705 00:33:07,310 --> 00:33:02,789 the house but are there some indicators 706 00:33:11,190 --> 00:33:07,320 that a person might have that something 707 00:33:14,279 --> 00:33:11,200 negative was in their home what kind of 708 00:33:16,889 --> 00:33:14,289 signs are there that's that's a great 709 00:33:19,950 --> 00:33:16,899 question and it's I'll answer it like 710 00:33:21,930 --> 00:33:19,960 this when I when it went on for when I'm 711 00:33:23,580 --> 00:33:21,940 first approached by someone that says 712 00:33:26,250 --> 00:33:23,590 hey I think I've got something running 713 00:33:28,620 --> 00:33:26,260 around my house it's real nasty well I 714 00:33:32,310 --> 00:33:28,630 happen I asked I let them do the talking 715 00:33:33,899 --> 00:33:32,320 you know what what's going on what what 716 00:33:35,220 --> 00:33:33,909 are you seeing what are you feeling what 717 00:33:37,740 --> 00:33:35,230 are you hearing what are you smelling 718 00:33:39,210 --> 00:33:37,750 what are you tasting what's our what 719 00:33:41,759 --> 00:33:39,220 sort of experiencing what kind of 720 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:41,769 paranormal activity there's not just one 721 00:33:47,730 --> 00:33:45,250 thing that we focus on when we go into 722 00:33:51,570 --> 00:33:47,740 these situations it's the totality of it 723 00:33:53,100 --> 00:33:51,580 all are there for instance what type of 724 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:53,110 paranormal activity are you see and what 725 00:33:59,070 --> 00:33:55,570 makes you think it's demonic versus just 726 00:34:01,350 --> 00:33:59,080 a ghost and then we take that and then 727 00:34:06,379 --> 00:34:01,360 we go from there some of the things that 728 00:34:08,669 --> 00:34:06,389 we look for you can smell our things 729 00:34:11,430 --> 00:34:08,679 missing that are causing chaos and the 730 00:34:13,919 --> 00:34:11,440 family are there you know physical 731 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:13,929 things that are going on you can look 732 00:34:20,399 --> 00:34:16,810 for scratches bite marks those types of 733 00:34:23,129 --> 00:34:20,409 things things being misplaced then 734 00:34:26,550 --> 00:34:23,139 there's also psychological things that 735 00:34:29,430 --> 00:34:26,560 can happen our people have they changed 736 00:34:32,940 --> 00:34:29,440 or their personalities different are 737 00:34:35,990 --> 00:34:32,950 their addictions involved are there they 738 00:34:40,260 --> 00:34:36,000 can see their body odor to change their 739 00:34:41,790 --> 00:34:40,270 hobbies their their way of life there's 740 00:34:44,130 --> 00:34:41,800 there's a lot of things that you can 741 00:34:46,380 --> 00:34:44,140 look for psychologically 742 00:34:47,820 --> 00:34:46,390 that can be an indicator that someone's 743 00:34:51,810 --> 00:34:47,830 being influenced by something pretty 744 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:51,820 ugly and before anything's come you know 745 00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:55,090 declared of that in that demonic realm 746 00:34:59,190 --> 00:34:57,130 and I hate using that word because it's 747 00:35:01,950 --> 00:34:59,200 very rare that something is actually 748 00:35:04,830 --> 00:35:01,960 truly demonic it just may be a tormented 749 00:35:07,050 --> 00:35:04,840 soul that's in there causing chaos or it 750 00:35:10,890 --> 00:35:07,060 can be something that you moved in and 751 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:10,900 maybe you removed a chest of drawers 752 00:35:14,220 --> 00:35:13,090 that they were attached to that they 753 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:14,230 really liked and you're like how we 754 00:35:17,580 --> 00:35:15,610 gotta give this old thing out of here 755 00:35:21,510 --> 00:35:17,590 and they're upset about it and they want 756 00:35:23,580 --> 00:35:21,520 to let you know it also there can be the 757 00:35:26,250 --> 00:35:23,590 other side of it where there may have 758 00:35:27,810 --> 00:35:26,260 been some chaos in the residence other 759 00:35:29,940 --> 00:35:27,820 may have been some bad things going on 760 00:35:31,970 --> 00:35:29,950 in there and then you have taken over 761 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:31,980 the establishment and moved in and 762 00:35:36,660 --> 00:35:35,050 they're happy with you and they don't 763 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:36,670 want you to freak out they don't want 764 00:35:40,710 --> 00:35:38,770 you scared they would they want you to 765 00:35:44,220 --> 00:35:40,720 know that that they're at peace with 766 00:35:45,810 --> 00:35:44,230 what you're doing so they can if there's 767 00:35:47,850 --> 00:35:45,820 a lot of different things to look for 768 00:35:52,170 --> 00:35:47,860 but those are some of the things that 769 00:35:56,310 --> 00:35:52,180 drop the red flags have there been is it 770 00:35:59,850 --> 00:35:56,320 possible that there is like a remnant 771 00:36:01,500 --> 00:35:59,860 energy from something that bad that's 772 00:36:04,370 --> 00:36:01,510 happened in the home you know maybe 773 00:36:06,810 --> 00:36:04,380 someone was was murdered in the home or 774 00:36:11,070 --> 00:36:06,820 there was a lot of like you said 775 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:11,080 addiction and problems and you know uh 776 00:36:17,370 --> 00:36:15,130 it can that end up some of that you know 777 00:36:19,380 --> 00:36:17,380 staying over and causing you know a 778 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:19,390 negative feeling about the house or 779 00:36:25,140 --> 00:36:21,330 negative energy in the house oh 780 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:25,150 absolutely if whatever the activity you 781 00:36:31,530 --> 00:36:28,090 know was going on in the house it could 782 00:36:35,940 --> 00:36:31,540 have been something prior to the people 783 00:36:37,740 --> 00:36:35,950 who were there that that was residual 784 00:36:39,630 --> 00:36:37,750 left over from something that an event 785 00:36:42,270 --> 00:36:39,640 that occurred prior to a suicide 786 00:36:46,770 --> 00:36:42,280 homicide these types of activities that 787 00:36:48,870 --> 00:36:46,780 that are really negatively affected like 788 00:36:50,610 --> 00:36:48,880 you know they're in for instance like a 789 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:50,620 homicide there's usually not a whole lot 790 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:51,970 of good thing that's good things that 791 00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:54,370 went down during a homicide same with a 792 00:36:57,470 --> 00:36:56,770 sua small is there's usually not a whole 793 00:36:59,240 --> 00:36:57,480 lot of happy 794 00:37:02,390 --> 00:36:59,250 and good positive energy around the 795 00:37:05,180 --> 00:37:02,400 suicide so when these things occur in a 796 00:37:06,500 --> 00:37:05,190 residence sometimes the the energy 797 00:37:08,900 --> 00:37:06,510 associated with the person that 798 00:37:10,849 --> 00:37:08,910 committed the act or the victim that 799 00:37:14,630 --> 00:37:10,859 committed the act or was involved in the 800 00:37:16,430 --> 00:37:14,640 act that that the energy that that was 801 00:37:19,460 --> 00:37:16,440 associated with that Kim linger 802 00:37:22,849 --> 00:37:19,470 absolutely like it was in a super 803 00:37:25,450 --> 00:37:22,859 heightened state of fear you know the 804 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:25,460 victim a victim or something you know 805 00:37:31,130 --> 00:37:28,970 maybe that leaves some kind of residue 806 00:37:36,290 --> 00:37:31,140 absolutely cuz if you think about it 807 00:37:38,720 --> 00:37:36,300 when we experience fear anxiety worry 808 00:37:41,270 --> 00:37:38,730 when we what happens to our brains it 809 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:41,280 releases adrenaline and what does 810 00:37:44,420 --> 00:37:42,810 adrenaline do it creates a lot more 811 00:37:46,130 --> 00:37:44,430 firestorms a lot more sparks in the 812 00:37:48,590 --> 00:37:46,140 reins you're drawn in a lot more energy 813 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:48,600 and that's almost like a gas pump to 814 00:37:54,740 --> 00:37:51,810 spirits that's why a negative entity 815 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:54,750 will want you to experience fear so that 816 00:37:58,490 --> 00:37:56,130 you can release more electrical energy 817 00:38:00,680 --> 00:37:58,500 and you get your heart rate pumping 818 00:38:03,650 --> 00:38:00,690 faster more sparks in the heart the 819 00:38:07,340 --> 00:38:03,660 whole nine yards and that's like a a gas 820 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:07,350 pump they're not actually trying to get 821 00:38:11,060 --> 00:38:09,210 you to fear because they get a kick out 822 00:38:13,340 --> 00:38:11,070 of it they're trying to get you to fear 823 00:38:16,310 --> 00:38:13,350 so that you can feed them that you can 824 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:16,320 give more electricity so it's it's 825 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:19,170 easier for them to do it negatively now 826 00:38:23,420 --> 00:38:21,450 your relatives when they come to you 827 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:23,430 they don't want you to fear they don't 828 00:38:27,500 --> 00:38:25,890 they know that and I'm flat out told my 829 00:38:28,730 --> 00:38:27,510 dead relatives don't show up as an 830 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:28,740 apparition to the foot of my bed Oh 831 00:38:35,450 --> 00:38:32,970 freak me out all right so many times a 832 00:38:37,490 --> 00:38:35,460 different way and they do they've 833 00:38:39,470 --> 00:38:37,500 they're they're very they're very 834 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:39,480 prominent in my life and in many ways 835 00:38:43,580 --> 00:38:41,850 and it's been proven I teach mediumship 836 00:38:45,020 --> 00:38:43,590 and it's pretty funny because most of my 837 00:38:48,470 --> 00:38:45,030 students have all channeled like my 838 00:38:50,599 --> 00:38:48,480 grandparents at one time to the point 839 00:38:51,980 --> 00:38:50,609 where I've even got an 11 year old 840 00:38:53,330 --> 00:38:51,990 student she SAT there and told me my 841 00:38:57,140 --> 00:38:53,340 grandfather's name is date of birth 842 00:38:58,880 --> 00:38:57,150 everything so well that's him as well as 843 00:39:00,859 --> 00:38:58,890 some valid sign that it occurred that 844 00:39:04,550 --> 00:39:00,869 day that this little girl could not have 845 00:39:07,670 --> 00:39:04,560 known so that's that's okay with wool 846 00:39:09,290 --> 00:39:07,680 yeah that's that's okay for me to do I 847 00:39:10,730 --> 00:39:09,300 would rather have them do that and to 848 00:39:11,250 --> 00:39:10,740 show up in my bed at three o'clock in 849 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:11,260 the morning 850 00:39:17,490 --> 00:39:13,450 grabbing on my pinky toe waking me up 851 00:39:20,100 --> 00:39:17,500 whole pop and that's you know and it's 852 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:20,110 been so yeah so our loved ones the good 853 00:39:23,310 --> 00:39:21,850 entities they don't want us to fear they 854 00:39:25,620 --> 00:39:23,320 don't want they want us to be comforted 855 00:39:28,050 --> 00:39:25,630 or when we're comforted our heart rate 856 00:39:30,510 --> 00:39:28,060 slows down our adrenaline doesn't pump 857 00:39:32,310 --> 00:39:30,520 we're not we're not amped up then we 858 00:39:35,010 --> 00:39:32,320 we're not releasing a whole lot of 859 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:35,020 energy so they're they're okay they're 860 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:36,850 they want us to know that they're there 861 00:39:40,140 --> 00:39:38,770 but they'll send more subtle signs 862 00:39:42,900 --> 00:39:40,150 sometimes and will come through in a 863 00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:42,910 dream those types of things they're not 864 00:39:48,780 --> 00:39:46,210 going to sit there and throw a plate 865 00:39:52,050 --> 00:39:48,790 across the room or move a you know move 866 00:39:54,660 --> 00:39:52,060 a coffee cup it's the negative entities 867 00:39:56,100 --> 00:39:54,670 that will try to intimidate by doing 868 00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:56,110 that it's a dog and pony show that 869 00:40:00,210 --> 00:39:57,610 they're putting on or or throwing a 870 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:00,220 temper tantrum and that's what they're 871 00:40:04,710 --> 00:40:01,930 doing is to try to get you riled up a 872 00:40:07,230 --> 00:40:04,720 lot of times what they'll do is they 873 00:40:11,220 --> 00:40:07,240 will though they'll try to befriend a 874 00:40:14,700 --> 00:40:11,230 child because the child as children they 875 00:40:17,340 --> 00:40:14,710 don't understand what faith is as much 876 00:40:19,470 --> 00:40:17,350 as we learn as we learn about faith as 877 00:40:20,910 --> 00:40:19,480 we grow older and learn to control our 878 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:20,920 fears and what have you so though 879 00:40:26,730 --> 00:40:23,530 they'll appear as a very friendly object 880 00:40:30,150 --> 00:40:26,740 to the to the child like the child's 881 00:40:31,710 --> 00:40:30,160 invisible friend kerna fame and what 882 00:40:34,380 --> 00:40:31,720 will happen is that will welcome the 883 00:40:36,540 --> 00:40:34,390 energy in and though you go play on the 884 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:36,550 child's innocence to get welcomed into 885 00:40:42,750 --> 00:40:38,770 the resident the residents so that it 886 00:40:45,720 --> 00:40:42,760 can start manipulating and then what 887 00:40:49,230 --> 00:40:45,730 happens is it opens this this 888 00:40:51,750 --> 00:40:49,240 deliverance I've done in december was 889 00:40:53,430 --> 00:40:51,760 the family had come to me and I turned 890 00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:53,440 to the mother and I said you got a two 891 00:40:59,220 --> 00:40:56,050 year old son he talks to spirits this 892 00:41:01,350 --> 00:40:59,230 was during a session and she said how 893 00:41:03,300 --> 00:41:01,360 would you know that yeah he's he does do 894 00:41:05,820 --> 00:41:03,310 that and I said okay and I told her I 895 00:41:09,240 --> 00:41:05,830 said it's okay and said I can't tell you 896 00:41:10,830 --> 00:41:09,250 if it's a good spirit or not I said but 897 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:10,840 just keep an eye on it if anything weird 898 00:41:17,970 --> 00:41:14,890 happens give me a call well within about 899 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:17,980 a week later I got the call and she said 900 00:41:22,260 --> 00:41:19,810 she said there's a lot of weird things 901 00:41:24,460 --> 00:41:22,270 that are going on and he's starting to 902 00:41:28,180 --> 00:41:24,470 experience nightmares and fear 903 00:41:31,089 --> 00:41:28,190 and this is not a friendly a pari a 904 00:41:33,250 --> 00:41:31,099 friendly type energy and I said well I 905 00:41:35,770 --> 00:41:33,260 can't I can't tell you what it is over 906 00:41:36,849 --> 00:41:35,780 the phone well the while we were 907 00:41:38,050 --> 00:41:36,859 speaking on the phone and she was 908 00:41:39,450 --> 00:41:38,060 relating to me all the paranormal 909 00:41:43,170 --> 00:41:39,460 activity that have been going on 910 00:41:46,270 --> 00:41:43,180 surrounding this child and in the house 911 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:46,280 the Christmas tree was up and she had a 912 00:41:51,820 --> 00:41:49,490 glass ball as an ornament on the 913 00:41:53,380 --> 00:41:51,830 Christmas tree and she says I'm gonna 914 00:41:54,609 --> 00:41:53,390 have to let you go up the block I'm the 915 00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:54,619 one of the ornaments just flew across 916 00:41:58,420 --> 00:41:57,290 the room smashed on the carpet and I've 917 00:41:59,950 --> 00:41:58,430 got glass everywhere and I've got a 918 00:42:02,859 --> 00:41:59,960 two-year-old 13 year old runaround I got 919 00:42:05,650 --> 00:42:02,869 clean this glass up well when I got out 920 00:42:09,130 --> 00:42:05,660 to the house the the carpeting was shag 921 00:42:11,380 --> 00:42:09,140 carpet and we tried to recreate just 922 00:42:14,470 --> 00:42:11,390 dropping the ball off the Christmas tree 923 00:42:17,109 --> 00:42:14,480 which the hook was still on the tree 924 00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:17,119 even from where the ball came off so we 925 00:42:21,609 --> 00:42:18,530 need the exact location where the ball 926 00:42:23,290 --> 00:42:21,619 was and the ball if we just dropped it 927 00:42:25,210 --> 00:42:23,300 it would get caught in the tree wouldn't 928 00:42:27,220 --> 00:42:25,220 even hit the ground and then we actually 929 00:42:29,050 --> 00:42:27,230 held the ball up from you know a 930 00:42:30,730 --> 00:42:29,060 shoulder height where the ball was 931 00:42:32,650 --> 00:42:30,740 placed on the Christmas tree well the 932 00:42:35,859 --> 00:42:32,660 carpet dropped it and wouldn't break it 933 00:42:39,849 --> 00:42:35,869 just kind of bounced and so for this 934 00:42:41,980 --> 00:42:39,859 kind of force behind it exactly exactly 935 00:42:43,690 --> 00:42:41,990 and she witnessed this while she was on 936 00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:43,700 the phone with me and ironically at the 937 00:42:48,099 --> 00:42:46,490 time the phone was breaking up we're 938 00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:48,109 having all kinds of static problems with 939 00:42:52,720 --> 00:42:50,690 the phone opal course when he's maneuver 940 00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:52,730 when these energies manipulate they 941 00:42:58,000 --> 00:42:54,890 cause electrical interference all the 942 00:43:00,849 --> 00:42:58,010 time because they're sucking energy so 943 00:43:03,510 --> 00:43:00,859 it was there was there's all kinds of 944 00:43:05,650 --> 00:43:03,520 things that that actually went down 945 00:43:08,490 --> 00:43:05,660 evolving that deliverance which was 946 00:43:12,579 --> 00:43:08,500 interesting not intimidating per se but 947 00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:12,589 in but definitely out of the norm for 948 00:43:16,930 --> 00:43:14,810 instance when I went to the child's room 949 00:43:18,730 --> 00:43:16,940 I did did went around the house doing my 950 00:43:22,410 --> 00:43:18,740 thing my little little cleansing thing 951 00:43:25,150 --> 00:43:22,420 and when I went to the child's room I 952 00:43:27,940 --> 00:43:25,160 confronted the spirit in the closet of 953 00:43:30,609 --> 00:43:27,950 this child's closet and during that 954 00:43:32,230 --> 00:43:30,619 event there was a night light behind me 955 00:43:35,230 --> 00:43:32,240 I plugged into the wall one that's on a 956 00:43:37,150 --> 00:43:35,240 switch not on a dimmer nuts you know not 957 00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:37,160 light sensitive but just an actual 958 00:43:40,990 --> 00:43:38,210 physical watch 959 00:43:42,339 --> 00:43:41,000 and didn't think anything of it it was 960 00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:42,349 it was three o'clock in the afternoon 961 00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:45,050 the sun was out so there was no need for 962 00:43:50,230 --> 00:43:47,330 it to be on when I went around the room 963 00:43:53,140 --> 00:43:50,240 doing what I needed to do the light was 964 00:43:55,450 --> 00:43:53,150 turned off there was it was not on well 965 00:43:58,390 --> 00:43:55,460 after after I got done confronting it in 966 00:44:00,670 --> 00:43:58,400 the closet with off the road i finished 967 00:44:03,099 --> 00:44:00,680 the the house and afterwards Beth had 968 00:44:04,630 --> 00:44:03,109 had asked me to stretch she pulled me 969 00:44:07,390 --> 00:44:04,640 off to the side took me to a child room 970 00:44:09,849 --> 00:44:07,400 so nankai some and we let into the room 971 00:44:11,410 --> 00:44:09,859 the light was on and I thought that's 972 00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:11,420 interesting nobody's been in this room 973 00:44:17,290 --> 00:44:14,210 and I said that wasn't on I would have 974 00:44:19,540 --> 00:44:17,300 no I know it wasn't I was my face was 975 00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:19,550 right in front of it at one point and I 976 00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:21,770 said when did that and she said while 977 00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:23,330 you were doing while you were 978 00:44:27,579 --> 00:44:24,890 confronting the spirit in the closet 979 00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:27,589 that light started coming on and started 980 00:44:33,550 --> 00:44:31,130 pulsing and now it's on and I said wow 981 00:44:34,810 --> 00:44:33,560 that's interesting she said nobody 982 00:44:36,070 --> 00:44:34,820 wanted to say anything to you when you 983 00:44:37,359 --> 00:44:36,080 were doing it cuz what are your upped 984 00:44:39,790 --> 00:44:37,369 you and I was like well that's good i'm 985 00:44:43,780 --> 00:44:39,800 glad you didn't I was kind of focused to 986 00:44:44,859 --> 00:44:43,790 hear that but it was that was definitely 987 00:44:47,380 --> 00:44:44,869 interesting and then we had some other 988 00:44:51,220 --> 00:44:47,390 things occur a matter of fact this was a 989 00:44:55,150 --> 00:44:51,230 Catholic family and they had their 990 00:44:56,710 --> 00:44:55,160 grandmothers rosary and when I went I I 991 00:44:59,829 --> 00:44:56,720 always try to i always make holy water 992 00:45:01,870 --> 00:44:59,839 but in inside the residence when I do 993 00:45:04,089 --> 00:45:01,880 these deliverances and while I was 994 00:45:07,690 --> 00:45:04,099 making the the holy water I was holding 995 00:45:09,070 --> 00:45:07,700 the rosary and I after getting done 996 00:45:11,890 --> 00:45:09,080 making the holy water i looked at the 997 00:45:14,380 --> 00:45:11,900 gal who owned the house there and i said 998 00:45:16,300 --> 00:45:14,390 i said this is your grandmother's and 999 00:45:18,579 --> 00:45:16,310 says yeah it's it's a hundred years old 1000 00:45:19,660 --> 00:45:18,589 and it's been handed down right so well 1001 00:45:23,950 --> 00:45:19,670 your grandmother's coming through she's 1002 00:45:25,930 --> 00:45:23,960 here and i said she's got just got 1003 00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:25,940 doilies everywhere she showed me doilies 1004 00:45:28,720 --> 00:45:27,050 i don't know what that means but she's 1005 00:45:30,849 --> 00:45:28,730 saying that you'll know or you can find 1006 00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:30,859 out and I don't know what that means I 1007 00:45:35,260 --> 00:45:32,210 didn't know her that well and I said 1008 00:45:37,650 --> 00:45:35,270 okay well give me a call its to get rid 1009 00:45:39,970 --> 00:45:37,660 of the spirit here you have a bad one so 1010 00:45:41,829 --> 00:45:39,980 the next day she calls me and she says 1011 00:45:44,530 --> 00:45:41,839 my grandmother was known as the doily 1012 00:45:48,099 --> 00:45:44,540 lady so that's she gave doilies as 1013 00:45:51,069 --> 00:45:48,109 presents she made them that was her that 1014 00:45:53,620 --> 00:45:51,079 was like her business card was boilies 1015 00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:53,630 as okay why is she so that my mom 1016 00:45:58,269 --> 00:45:55,249 validated that's an okay that makes 1017 00:46:00,190 --> 00:45:58,279 sense that so uh there's there's all 1018 00:46:01,449 --> 00:46:00,200 kinds of good things that occurred 1019 00:46:03,459 --> 00:46:01,459 because of this and then what was 1020 00:46:06,099 --> 00:46:03,469 interesting was is that the entity that 1021 00:46:09,249 --> 00:46:06,109 the two-year-old had been afflicted by 1022 00:46:13,150 --> 00:46:09,259 in that residence had a name for it his 1023 00:46:17,410 --> 00:46:13,160 name was bad wolf okay where the rest 1024 00:46:19,390 --> 00:46:17,420 way yeah yeah wow that's my friend bad 1025 00:46:22,599 --> 00:46:19,400 wolf and I was like oh boy here we go 1026 00:46:23,949 --> 00:46:22,609 and this child would incessantly talk 1027 00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:23,959 about bad wolf throughout the day 1028 00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:28,130 mention it 100 200 times a day and now 1029 00:46:31,269 --> 00:46:29,930 the children are never a present we 1030 00:46:32,709 --> 00:46:31,279 don't want children in the house when we 1031 00:46:34,870 --> 00:46:32,719 do stuff like this because we don't want 1032 00:46:37,209 --> 00:46:34,880 to plant a seed that is not there and 1033 00:46:40,809 --> 00:46:37,219 I'm very careful about speaking to a 1034 00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:40,819 child about anything well after that 1035 00:46:46,299 --> 00:46:44,450 that deliverance I I would lose checking 1036 00:46:48,339 --> 00:46:46,309 in with the family every day hey how are 1037 00:46:50,049 --> 00:46:48,349 things going what's going on you know 1038 00:46:52,299 --> 00:46:50,059 because I need to know because these 1039 00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:52,309 things will try to come back and that's 1040 00:46:56,769 --> 00:46:53,930 why there's a there's there's counseling 1041 00:46:58,689 --> 00:46:56,779 and follow-up involved because you can't 1042 00:47:00,759 --> 00:46:58,699 just go okay well it's done see you and 1043 00:47:02,529 --> 00:47:00,769 have a nice day you need you need to 1044 00:47:04,329 --> 00:47:02,539 stay on this otherwise look if they 1045 00:47:06,969 --> 00:47:04,339 don't if some things are not changed 1046 00:47:08,979 --> 00:47:06,979 maybe some behaviors or just to make the 1047 00:47:10,959 --> 00:47:08,989 family aware that hey has there been a 1048 00:47:12,819 --> 00:47:10,969 lot of arguing going on and there's all 1049 00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:12,829 kinds of stuff that welcomes the stuff 1050 00:47:16,989 --> 00:47:15,650 back in and she said you know what since 1051 00:47:20,229 --> 00:47:16,999 you were here that child has not 1052 00:47:22,779 --> 00:47:20,239 mentioned that name bad wolf since as 1053 00:47:25,509 --> 00:47:22,789 she goes this incredible because that's 1054 00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:25,519 all he would ever talk about and I said 1055 00:47:28,479 --> 00:47:26,930 well that's interesting us and they 1056 00:47:30,130 --> 00:47:28,489 didn't tell him that hey we got rid of 1057 00:47:32,410 --> 00:47:30,140 bad wolf today or anything with acid 1058 00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:32,420 don't don't talk to him about it just 1059 00:47:38,079 --> 00:47:35,930 let him talk and just be a tick what 1060 00:47:39,339 --> 00:47:38,089 he's saying you know if he's waking up 1061 00:47:40,660 --> 00:47:39,349 in the middle of night screaming range 1062 00:47:44,199 --> 00:47:40,670 to know he sleeping through the night 1063 00:47:46,299 --> 00:47:44,209 he's doing great so these these things 1064 00:47:47,799 --> 00:47:46,309 and it's not like I said yo you got to 1065 00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:47,809 stay on it you have to stay on your 1066 00:47:53,469 --> 00:47:50,930 prayers you know as Catholics they had 1067 00:47:55,630 --> 00:47:53,479 prayers and stuff I could mentor them on 1068 00:47:57,789 --> 00:47:55,640 better that we're Christian in the 1069 00:47:59,769 --> 00:47:57,799 Christian walk and better you know 1070 00:48:01,269 --> 00:47:59,779 straight on the bottle Psalm 91 is a 1071 00:48:04,229 --> 00:48:01,279 great one that's like that's like a 1072 00:48:06,809 --> 00:48:04,239 flamethrower and so 1073 00:48:09,389 --> 00:48:06,819 well I said stay on these prayers mean 1074 00:48:11,399 --> 00:48:09,399 them when you say them and say them out 1075 00:48:14,099 --> 00:48:11,409 loud but it you know so that way they 1076 00:48:16,139 --> 00:48:14,109 know you you're not welcome here and 1077 00:48:20,489 --> 00:48:16,149 you'll call in your angels and guardians 1078 00:48:23,099 --> 00:48:20,499 and so it's it was it's really 1079 00:48:25,979 --> 00:48:23,109 interesting when you when you're able to 1080 00:48:28,049 --> 00:48:25,989 help a family like that and to find out 1081 00:48:29,959 --> 00:48:28,059 that okay this child had no idea that we 1082 00:48:32,729 --> 00:48:29,969 were there or even or did anything 1083 00:48:35,699 --> 00:48:32,739 what's the what's the basis for him now 1084 00:48:38,339 --> 00:48:35,709 not saying anything yeah what you know 1085 00:48:40,649 --> 00:48:38,349 and so it's it's very interesting if the 1086 00:48:42,569 --> 00:48:40,659 paranormal activity is stopped there's 1087 00:48:44,609 --> 00:48:42,579 nothing going on now it's all of us said 1088 00:48:45,959 --> 00:48:44,619 no you can't you can't just go okay 1089 00:48:47,969 --> 00:48:45,969 great it's gone and then go back to 1090 00:48:49,889 --> 00:48:47,979 doing you know just go back to normal 1091 00:48:51,569 --> 00:48:49,899 life you got to stay on it because the 1092 00:48:53,579 --> 00:48:51,579 first thing that it will want to do is 1093 00:48:55,859 --> 00:48:53,589 it will want you to think that you want 1094 00:48:59,939 --> 00:48:55,869 so that you let your guard down again 1095 00:49:01,139 --> 00:48:59,949 and then it'll come right back in so you 1096 00:49:03,209 --> 00:49:01,149 know there are certain protections and 1097 00:49:06,299 --> 00:49:03,219 stuff you got to do you can do to help 1098 00:49:08,339 --> 00:49:06,309 against that but the most part is you've 1099 00:49:10,709 --> 00:49:08,349 got to stay on it in a few if you are a 1100 00:49:13,259 --> 00:49:10,719 faith-based family you've got to stay on 1101 00:49:15,749 --> 00:49:13,269 your faith and kind of what I talk about 1102 00:49:17,399 --> 00:49:15,759 in the book to is not only the 1103 00:49:19,909 --> 00:49:17,409 scientific side of it the electrical 1104 00:49:25,079 --> 00:49:19,919 energy and all that there is a very 1105 00:49:26,219 --> 00:49:25,089 strong spiritual faith based point that 1106 00:49:28,409 --> 00:49:26,229 needs to be made when you're 1107 00:49:31,199 --> 00:49:28,419 communicating with spirits and that's 1108 00:49:33,629 --> 00:49:31,209 what ever your your higher power is you 1109 00:49:35,459 --> 00:49:33,639 know there I've instructed pagans 1110 00:49:38,429 --> 00:49:35,469 Wiccans the whole nine yards and 1111 00:49:42,389 --> 00:49:38,439 mediumship and so long as they are of a 1112 00:49:44,849 --> 00:49:42,399 loving walk in their faith then I'll 1113 00:49:48,389 --> 00:49:44,859 work with you if your if your faith is 1114 00:49:52,019 --> 00:49:48,399 based on darkness and then I can't help 1115 00:49:53,729 --> 00:49:52,029 you and so it's it's like I I'm a 1116 00:49:55,829 --> 00:49:53,739 Christian I'm not a great one but we can 1117 00:50:02,519 --> 00:49:55,839 still make sees and get in you know and 1118 00:50:05,099 --> 00:50:02,529 so I try man but I'm far from holy but I 1119 00:50:06,449 --> 00:50:05,109 tell people I'm like we're all trying 1120 00:50:09,419 --> 00:50:06,459 it's like we're all trying to get to 1121 00:50:13,379 --> 00:50:09,429 mcdonalds when we die and the you know 1122 00:50:16,079 --> 00:50:13,389 the golden arches and so whatever your 1123 00:50:17,730 --> 00:50:16,089 faith is so long as it's it's a selfless 1124 00:50:20,550 --> 00:50:17,740 faith and 1125 00:50:22,530 --> 00:50:20,560 benefits mankind and it's based on love 1126 00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:22,540 then you're cool then we're basically 1127 00:50:26,430 --> 00:50:24,610 i'll try to get to the same spot there's 1128 00:50:27,540 --> 00:50:26,440 a lot of different ways you can get to 1129 00:50:29,910 --> 00:50:27,550 mcdonalds there are a lot of different 1130 00:50:31,980 --> 00:50:29,920 roads you can take take one street or 1131 00:50:34,770 --> 00:50:31,990 take another but so long as you're going 1132 00:50:37,260 --> 00:50:34,780 to end up there then that's we're all 1133 00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:37,270 we're all in the same boat our energy is 1134 00:50:43,950 --> 00:50:40,290 trying to get into the positive side and 1135 00:50:45,540 --> 00:50:43,960 your faith as a Christian and when I'm 1136 00:50:48,090 --> 00:50:45,550 instructing Christians going deliverance 1137 00:50:52,350 --> 00:50:48,100 for Christians I tell them you know you 1138 00:50:54,780 --> 00:50:52,360 you have to not fear what we're going 1139 00:50:57,090 --> 00:50:54,790 through this because you may see some 1140 00:50:58,650 --> 00:50:57,100 weird stuff you have to know that at the 1141 00:51:01,050 --> 00:50:58,660 devil himself shows up with horns and a 1142 00:51:04,260 --> 00:51:01,060 pitchfork you gotta go you know what 1143 00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:04,270 even if you strike me down bed today I 1144 00:51:09,420 --> 00:51:08,170 know I'm going with God in Christ so if 1145 00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:09,430 you hit me with your best shot you're 1146 00:51:13,020 --> 00:51:10,690 not going to win you're not getting my 1147 00:51:15,720 --> 00:51:13,030 energy you're i'm not going to fear you 1148 00:51:17,820 --> 00:51:15,730 and it's and it's that's very difficult 1149 00:51:20,940 --> 00:51:17,830 sometimes for the people to understand 1150 00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:20,950 that concept of if you start fearing 1151 00:51:24,780 --> 00:51:22,450 then you're going to feed him 1152 00:51:28,140 --> 00:51:24,790 electricity and he's going to in 1153 00:51:29,940 --> 00:51:28,150 whatever the entity or entities are that 1154 00:51:33,420 --> 00:51:29,950 are negative they're going to go after 1155 00:51:36,870 --> 00:51:33,430 the one making intimidate and and that 1156 00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:36,880 I've seen happen and it's it's very real 1157 00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:39,850 i was in a a situation in Fort Worth 1158 00:51:46,620 --> 00:51:43,570 Texas about a year and a half ago where 1159 00:51:49,470 --> 00:51:46,630 the they were there was a six-year-old 1160 00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:49,480 child who was being tormented would not 1161 00:51:54,900 --> 00:51:51,490 sleep in this room was scared to death 1162 00:51:57,390 --> 00:51:54,910 was it was waking up with sleep 1163 00:51:59,609 --> 00:51:57,400 paralysis and all kinds of wicked 1164 00:52:01,560 --> 00:51:59,619 stories and he wouldn't sleep in his 1165 00:52:02,730 --> 00:52:01,570 room he'd whine they force him to go 1166 00:52:04,260 --> 00:52:02,740 sleep in his room at night and they'd 1167 00:52:06,540 --> 00:52:04,270 wake up in the morning you sleeping on 1168 00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:06,550 the couch in his sister's room he would 1169 00:52:11,940 --> 00:52:08,770 not use having a hard hard time in his 1170 00:52:16,290 --> 00:52:11,950 room well I went around did my thing in 1171 00:52:18,599 --> 00:52:16,300 their house and then that evening well 1172 00:52:21,060 --> 00:52:18,609 don't during the the time that I was 1173 00:52:23,270 --> 00:52:21,070 doing the deliverance in the bed of the 1174 00:52:26,070 --> 00:52:23,280 child's bedroom which was during the day 1175 00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:26,080 the children were not present and never 1176 00:52:31,390 --> 00:52:29,650 are but the parents were and during that 1177 00:52:34,269 --> 00:52:31,400 time was interesting 1178 00:52:35,859 --> 00:52:34,279 the father's cell phone goes off and the 1179 00:52:38,740 --> 00:52:35,869 caller ID showed that the call was 1180 00:52:41,140 --> 00:52:38,750 coming in from number one well when he 1181 00:52:43,420 --> 00:52:41,150 answered it was nothing but static very 1182 00:52:46,930 --> 00:52:43,430 strange that kind of freaked the mother 1183 00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:46,940 out a little bit and so she it upset her 1184 00:52:50,519 --> 00:52:48,650 and because there was definitely 1185 00:52:53,740 --> 00:52:50,529 something going around she could feel it 1186 00:52:55,839 --> 00:52:53,750 because she was very sensitive well that 1187 00:52:59,740 --> 00:52:55,849 evening about 1am I get a text message 1188 00:53:01,630 --> 00:52:59,750 from the father who says to come into 1189 00:53:04,390 --> 00:53:01,640 the master bedroom something's wrong and 1190 00:53:07,359 --> 00:53:04,400 his mother and his wife was was there in 1191 00:53:09,849 --> 00:53:07,369 a full-blown panic attack and had 1192 00:53:12,430 --> 00:53:09,859 scratches on her back and was really 1193 00:53:15,490 --> 00:53:12,440 really getting tormented it had it had 1194 00:53:20,260 --> 00:53:15,500 attached itself to her and so a little 1195 00:53:22,380 --> 00:53:20,270 fear fear oh good yeah yep and so it was 1196 00:53:25,269 --> 00:53:22,390 like oh I should intimidate her and 1197 00:53:27,490 --> 00:53:25,279 she'll get her energy going and boom 1198 00:53:28,990 --> 00:53:27,500 that's that's my gas pump that'll give 1199 00:53:32,289 --> 00:53:29,000 me some that'll give me some energy I 1200 00:53:33,670 --> 00:53:32,299 can get her riled up and it did and I 1201 00:53:36,789 --> 00:53:33,680 was able to put her into a meditative 1202 00:53:39,039 --> 00:53:36,799 state and calm her down and then we got 1203 00:53:40,630 --> 00:53:39,049 rid of it that night and since that 1204 00:53:43,569 --> 00:53:40,640 night that child has had no problems now 1205 00:53:47,559 --> 00:53:43,579 that child had no idea that that I did 1206 00:53:49,660 --> 00:53:47,569 anything in the house but that and oddly 1207 00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:49,670 enough since that time he's had no 1208 00:53:53,470 --> 00:53:52,010 problem sleeping has no problems 1209 00:53:55,750 --> 00:53:53,480 entering his bedroom he sleeps in his 1210 00:53:57,849 --> 00:53:55,760 bedroom Merrill the whole nine yards so 1211 00:54:01,450 --> 00:53:57,859 there was definitely something to that 1212 00:54:04,180 --> 00:54:01,460 and something was really ugly so these 1213 00:54:05,740 --> 00:54:04,190 things are very real even the paranormal 1214 00:54:07,839 --> 00:54:05,750 they had a lot of paranormal stuff going 1215 00:54:09,309 --> 00:54:07,849 on their house as well stuff what books 1216 00:54:11,410 --> 00:54:09,319 show books flying off the shelves in the 1217 00:54:14,380 --> 00:54:11,420 child's closet I don't know what it is 1218 00:54:17,109 --> 00:54:14,390 me in closets but I guess I'm to fit but 1219 00:54:19,990 --> 00:54:17,119 it's not particularly it seems like you 1220 00:54:23,319 --> 00:54:20,000 hear that a lot you know like something 1221 00:54:26,769 --> 00:54:23,329 is in the closet you know it you've seen 1222 00:54:29,319 --> 00:54:26,779 a lot of shows like that you know where 1223 00:54:31,269 --> 00:54:29,329 the ghost or the whatever it is is in 1224 00:54:35,289 --> 00:54:31,279 the closet in the it's usually in the 1225 00:54:37,630 --> 00:54:35,299 kids closet and it seems you know it's 1226 00:54:39,730 --> 00:54:37,640 like a living space or something i'm not 1227 00:54:42,250 --> 00:54:39,740 sure what that's about well i think what 1228 00:54:44,170 --> 00:54:42,260 it comes down to is is I think that 1229 00:54:45,250 --> 00:54:44,180 these spirits know that kids watch a lot 1230 00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:45,260 of TV 1231 00:54:50,230 --> 00:54:47,330 and what do you see on all the creepy TV 1232 00:54:53,170 --> 00:54:50,240 shows it's in the closet so they know 1233 00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:53,180 that if they can pose as what the kid 1234 00:54:57,190 --> 00:54:54,890 can relate to as something hey there's 1235 00:54:59,710 --> 00:54:57,200 something in my closet and it's not nice 1236 00:55:02,440 --> 00:54:59,720 if they know that they'll play off of it 1237 00:55:05,170 --> 00:55:02,450 sure because they'll say okay if I throw 1238 00:55:06,610 --> 00:55:05,180 a book off the shelf in the garage it's 1239 00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:06,620 not going to be as intimidating as when 1240 00:55:09,490 --> 00:55:08,210 juniors trying to sleep and I knocking 1241 00:55:10,870 --> 00:55:09,500 off the shelf in the closet where he 1242 00:55:15,580 --> 00:55:10,880 already thinks there's something bad in 1243 00:55:17,380 --> 00:55:15,590 there so that's it makes sense if words 1244 00:55:23,260 --> 00:55:17,390 if you were ghosts what would you do you 1245 00:55:26,980 --> 00:55:23,270 go to the closet I was afraid with 1246 00:55:29,700 --> 00:55:26,990 Robert now when you're talking about 1247 00:55:33,010 --> 00:55:29,710 doing these cleansing zor these 1248 00:55:36,460 --> 00:55:33,020 deliverances one of our chat room 1249 00:55:38,590 --> 00:55:36,470 members Carol said does Jeff believe he 1250 00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:38,600 has a unique gift to provide this 1251 00:55:45,250 --> 00:55:41,570 deliverance or can anyone develop this 1252 00:55:49,090 --> 00:55:45,260 ability that's a great question I it's 1253 00:55:51,790 --> 00:55:49,100 my belief that everyone has the ability 1254 00:55:54,570 --> 00:55:51,800 to communicate with spirits that we all 1255 00:55:57,550 --> 00:55:54,580 have that that ability that little oh 1256 00:56:00,070 --> 00:55:57,560 it's it's like it's like playing 1257 00:56:02,350 --> 00:56:00,080 basketball for instance everyone can 1258 00:56:05,020 --> 00:56:02,360 play basketball not everyone's gone into 1259 00:56:07,030 --> 00:56:05,030 the NBA Hall of Fame but everyone can 1260 00:56:09,820 --> 00:56:07,040 can at least try to shoot a free throw 1261 00:56:12,370 --> 00:56:09,830 or at least understand the game and and 1262 00:56:14,350 --> 00:56:12,380 score keep for instance everyone can 1263 00:56:16,690 --> 00:56:14,360 participate in it now when you get into 1264 00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:16,700 stuff when you're dealing with the real 1265 00:56:21,730 --> 00:56:19,010 negative type energies and you're 1266 00:56:24,070 --> 00:56:21,740 actually going after them it's it's a 1267 00:56:26,530 --> 00:56:24,080 different type ball game because you're 1268 00:56:28,810 --> 00:56:26,540 they know you're coming for them they 1269 00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:28,820 already see it and when they do that 1270 00:56:34,510 --> 00:56:31,490 they can go after your friends your 1271 00:56:36,850 --> 00:56:34,520 family then go after you and I call it 1272 00:56:38,350 --> 00:56:36,860 pulling an end around it I go when I go 1273 00:56:40,270 --> 00:56:38,360 into these things I get my face up I do 1274 00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:40,280 a lot of praying that type of thing 1275 00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:41,810 before I go in asking for a lot of 1276 00:56:47,770 --> 00:56:45,290 protection the whole nine yards but what 1277 00:56:49,270 --> 00:56:47,780 can happen is if I have a friend say for 1278 00:56:52,620 --> 00:56:49,280 instance I may have been speaking with 1279 00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:52,630 that week is maybe in another state even 1280 00:56:58,840 --> 00:56:55,490 they can go and if their faith isn't 1281 00:57:02,980 --> 00:56:58,850 that strong and they they can try to 1282 00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:02,990 in Toronto influence them I've seen that 1283 00:57:08,110 --> 00:57:05,290 i've seen them go after family members 1284 00:57:10,780 --> 00:57:08,120 and i know exactly what happened it's 1285 00:57:12,580 --> 00:57:10,790 it's like oh okay you're trying to try 1286 00:57:16,150 --> 00:57:12,590 to get get your attention away they try 1287 00:57:18,370 --> 00:57:16,160 to break your face by breaking someone 1288 00:57:20,230 --> 00:57:18,380 else's faith know if they can do they 1289 00:57:22,270 --> 00:57:20,240 can do something that you'll say wow how 1290 00:57:24,010 --> 00:57:22,280 could that happen you know what why 1291 00:57:27,820 --> 00:57:24,020 would this person do this I've seen 1292 00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:27,830 people are lash out in weird ways and do 1293 00:57:34,510 --> 00:57:31,850 crazy things of for instance and even 1294 00:57:37,060 --> 00:57:34,520 physical manifestations there was one in 1295 00:57:40,180 --> 00:57:37,070 in dallas texas we're at a friend of 1296 00:57:42,190 --> 00:57:40,190 mine they've got who got an attack 1297 00:57:45,130 --> 00:57:42,200 because of something i was doing because 1298 00:57:46,420 --> 00:57:45,140 of deliverance i had done and what 1299 00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:46,430 happened was he was sitting there in 1300 00:57:50,620 --> 00:57:47,930 mill the night is about one or two in 1301 00:57:52,750 --> 00:57:50,630 the morning and was on his laptop in the 1302 00:57:55,330 --> 00:57:52,760 kitchen and i know we're going to break 1303 00:57:58,990 --> 00:57:55,340 here in slips I'll be quick yeah I think 1304 00:58:01,150 --> 00:57:59,000 that yeah yeah and uh he was he was on a 1305 00:58:03,550 --> 00:58:01,160 black top of the kitchen and he had a 1306 00:58:06,310 --> 00:58:03,560 pit bull which is a pretty good pretty 1307 00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:06,320 stout dog yeah okay pit bulls are known 1308 00:58:11,530 --> 00:58:09,650 for being shy well his pit bull was on 1309 00:58:12,850 --> 00:58:11,540 his sleep on the bed in his bedroom 1310 00:58:15,220 --> 00:58:12,860 which he could see from the kitchen 1311 00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:15,230 where he was at his laptop and through 1312 00:58:19,630 --> 00:58:17,090 that through the bedroom door he could 1313 00:58:21,190 --> 00:58:19,640 see a mirror well he heard what sounded 1314 00:58:24,250 --> 00:58:21,200 like the dog haven't bitten like a Yelp 1315 00:58:25,630 --> 00:58:24,260 their pit bulls don't Yelp and next 1316 00:58:28,060 --> 00:58:25,640 thing you know the dog comes out takes a 1317 00:58:30,580 --> 00:58:28,070 defensive position next to him as if you 1318 00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:30,590 were guarding him at the kitchen today 1319 00:58:34,990 --> 00:58:32,810 or at the kitchen table and looking back 1320 00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:35,000 towards the mirror in the bedroom and 1321 00:58:41,140 --> 00:58:39,050 growling well that's the mirrors can be 1322 00:58:42,610 --> 00:58:41,150 used as portals and we can get oh that's 1323 00:58:46,060 --> 00:58:42,620 a whole other there's a whole other show 1324 00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:46,070 but it was he calls me the next day this 1325 00:58:49,810 --> 00:58:47,450 is what you make a lot boat said well 1326 00:58:51,490 --> 00:58:49,820 nothing good I said that's I said 1327 00:58:54,850 --> 00:58:51,500 there's some running around that's like 1328 00:58:56,140 --> 00:58:54,860 you you need to be on your toes and I 1329 00:58:57,880 --> 00:58:56,150 said but get that mirror out of there 1330 00:58:59,920 --> 00:58:57,890 don't break it to just get it out of 1331 00:59:04,180 --> 00:58:59,930 there or cover it up with something like 1332 00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:04,190 blue so these things will try to to 1333 00:59:08,650 --> 00:59:05,810 manipulate and he was helping me with a 1334 00:59:10,810 --> 00:59:08,660 with a case that I was working on so he 1335 00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:10,820 was very connected to me at that time so 1336 00:59:15,130 --> 00:59:12,890 it was like that I was faced up is 1337 00:59:19,960 --> 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01:03:40,380 Renee will be exposing the truth one 1420 01:03:46,339 --> 01:03:42,989 secret at a time when Thursday every 1421 01:03:53,719 --> 01:03:46,349 Thursday 1030pm eastern 730 p.m. pacific 1422 01:03:54,979 --> 01:03:53,729 we're right here IRA welcome back 1423 01:03:57,140 --> 01:03:54,989 everyone you're listening to night 1424 01:03:59,239 --> 01:03:57,150 vision radio I'm your host Renee Barnett 1425 01:04:03,789 --> 01:03:59,249 and we are talking tonight with Jeff 1426 01:04:09,859 --> 01:04:03,799 Allen psychic medium former cop a 1427 01:04:12,650 --> 01:04:09,869 deliverance guy extraordinaire and we've 1428 01:04:16,699 --> 01:04:12,660 been talking about your work in you know 1429 01:04:20,150 --> 01:04:16,709 clearing houses and doing deliverances 1430 01:04:23,989 --> 01:04:20,160 of you know negative energy negative 1431 01:04:28,489 --> 01:04:23,999 entities even demonic entities sometimes 1432 01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:28,499 and but you also see clients on a 1433 01:04:32,839 --> 01:04:30,690 regular basis oh but before I get into 1434 01:04:34,789 --> 01:04:32,849 that I was forgot I want to tell people 1435 01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:34,799 how to get your book I didn't really get 1436 01:04:39,349 --> 01:04:37,650 that out at the top of the show now your 1437 01:04:43,839 --> 01:04:39,359 book is called so you want to be a 1438 01:04:48,650 --> 01:04:43,849 psychic and it is available through 1439 01:04:50,930 --> 01:04:48,660 amazon by your local bookstore but it's 1440 01:04:53,630 --> 01:04:50,940 also available right there on your 1441 01:04:56,870 --> 01:04:53,640 website jeff and i think you know with a 1442 01:04:59,329 --> 01:04:56,880 lot of people that i know that our 1443 01:05:01,189 --> 01:04:59,339 authors sometimes it's it's nicer for 1444 01:05:04,099 --> 01:05:01,199 them if people go directly to their 1445 01:05:06,589 --> 01:05:04,109 website in it's better for them if they 1446 01:05:08,269 --> 01:05:06,599 ordered directly through them so is that 1447 01:05:11,239 --> 01:05:08,279 the case with you and would you like 1448 01:05:15,199 --> 01:05:11,249 people to visit your website and if so 1449 01:05:17,329 --> 01:05:15,209 please give it to us sure yeah they can 1450 01:05:19,069 --> 01:05:17,339 get it through my website and that's 1451 01:05:21,410 --> 01:05:19,079 there's a link on there that'll take him 1452 01:05:23,209 --> 01:05:21,420 to red orchid publishing which their 1453 01:05:25,039 --> 01:05:23,219 website is red orchid publishing com 1454 01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:25,049 they've got a lot of other great titles 1455 01:05:28,969 --> 01:05:27,690 as well it's also available if it's not 1456 01:05:30,650 --> 01:05:28,979 in your book store you can ask your 1457 01:05:32,329 --> 01:05:30,660 local retailer to order for you as a 1458 01:05:36,650 --> 01:05:32,339 condition to qaddafi and have it brought 1459 01:05:43,370 --> 01:05:36,660 in as well as through my website at WWF 1460 01:05:48,079 --> 01:05:43,380 Alan that's GE 0 FF al le n dot Weebly w 1461 01:05:51,859 --> 01:05:48,089 EEE betel y dot com you can google me 1462 01:05:54,620 --> 01:05:51,869 also it's and it should come up and it's 1463 01:05:56,990 --> 01:05:54,630 also available on Kindle as well and so 1464 01:05:59,150 --> 01:05:57,000 yeah I appreciate all that it's it's an 1465 01:06:00,499 --> 01:05:59,160 interesting book it's it it was written 1466 01:06:03,410 --> 01:06:00,509 because there's so many people out there 1467 01:06:06,019 --> 01:06:03,420 now opening up or wanting to open up 1468 01:06:09,410 --> 01:06:06,029 their ability and just there's there's 1469 01:06:12,380 --> 01:06:09,420 really no you can't get a PhD in spirit 1470 01:06:14,930 --> 01:06:12,390 communication so there's this is there 1471 01:06:17,630 --> 01:06:14,940 was really I enjoyed writing something 1472 01:06:19,519 --> 01:06:17,640 that people could understand and it's 1473 01:06:21,380 --> 01:06:19,529 got a very conversationalist tone it's 1474 01:06:23,690 --> 01:06:21,390 almost like you said the review so far 1475 01:06:25,009 --> 01:06:23,700 van it's like I'm sitting down at my 1476 01:06:27,529 --> 01:06:25,019 kitchen table having a cup of coffee 1477 01:06:29,180 --> 01:06:27,539 with you and talking about this and that 1478 01:06:32,420 --> 01:06:29,190 flatters me what I hear reviews like 1479 01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:32,430 that so it's very worried it's it's not 1480 01:06:39,220 --> 01:06:36,450 hokey it's it's just a very I'm a 1481 01:06:42,769 --> 01:06:39,230 Knockaround guy it's very 1482 01:06:43,970 --> 01:06:42,779 conversationalist and so it's it's a lot 1483 01:06:46,819 --> 01:06:43,980 of fun to read after a little bit of 1484 01:06:47,930 --> 01:06:46,829 humor in there too I like to laugh and I 1485 01:06:49,730 --> 01:06:47,940 think that's important but you're 1486 01:06:51,529 --> 01:06:49,740 dealing with spirits because let's face 1487 01:06:52,970 --> 01:06:51,539 it it is kind of funny you're talking to 1488 01:06:58,130 --> 01:06:52,980 dead people that's that's kind of hear 1489 01:06:59,809 --> 01:06:58,140 it so it's I think there's a lot of a 1490 01:07:02,960 --> 01:06:59,819 lot of people in there in this industry 1491 01:07:05,059 --> 01:07:02,970 that take this way too serious and so I 1492 01:07:07,359 --> 01:07:05,069 like to be real light about it and and 1493 01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:07,369 say okay you know it doesn't have to be 1494 01:07:15,079 --> 01:07:13,650 as it has over the top as it seems 1495 01:07:17,289 --> 01:07:15,089 they're just dead people they're no 1496 01:07:19,519 --> 01:07:17,299 different than when people are alive 1497 01:07:21,049 --> 01:07:19,529 it's like walking into your spirit 1498 01:07:23,029 --> 01:07:21,059 spirit communication I tell people's 1499 01:07:24,499 --> 01:07:23,039 like walking into a bar there are some 1500 01:07:25,700 --> 01:07:24,509 people in there that'll be fun you could 1501 01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:25,710 sit down you have a great conversation 1502 01:07:29,210 --> 01:07:27,930 with them they're great people where 1503 01:07:32,029 --> 01:07:29,220 there might be some people here that are 1504 01:07:33,499 --> 01:07:32,039 not so nice you just don't know so it's 1505 01:07:35,779 --> 01:07:33,509 something there are a lot of things to 1506 01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:35,789 think about in a book and we need 1507 01:07:40,370 --> 01:07:37,170 sweetie decide that you want to take 1508 01:07:42,980 --> 01:07:40,380 this on as a journey and there's it 1509 01:07:44,299 --> 01:07:42,990 defines how to pick up mentors kind of 1510 01:07:45,799 --> 01:07:44,309 surround yourself with people who really 1511 01:07:48,049 --> 01:07:45,809 know what they're doing and how to 1512 01:07:50,210 --> 01:07:48,059 qualify them because you don't know 1513 01:07:51,950 --> 01:07:50,220 there's no I there's no spirit 1514 01:07:54,380 --> 01:07:51,960 communication license that says you pass 1515 01:07:56,180 --> 01:07:54,390 the test now you're qualified to give 1516 01:07:58,520 --> 01:07:56,190 them rifles field so 1517 01:08:02,030 --> 01:07:58,530 so it it gives you some things to ask of 1518 01:08:03,980 --> 01:08:02,040 mentors and how to seek them out and got 1519 01:08:06,500 --> 01:08:03,990 to build a relationship because I I've 1520 01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:06,510 got you I have a very strong belief that 1521 01:08:11,630 --> 01:08:08,730 you have to have to have mentors that 1522 01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:11,640 you can contact on a constant basis that 1523 01:08:15,260 --> 01:08:12,810 know you you have to build a 1524 01:08:17,420 --> 01:08:15,270 relationship with them because if you 1525 01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:17,430 may be influenced by something that you 1526 01:08:20,660 --> 01:08:18,690 don't know you're being influenced and 1527 01:08:22,249 --> 01:08:20,670 if they see a change in you they have to 1528 01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:22,259 be comfortable telling you about it and 1529 01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:24,330 you have to be able to go to them and 1530 01:08:28,820 --> 01:08:26,850 say hey something's not right here I did 1531 01:08:31,789 --> 01:08:28,830 a reading for somebody or I need a 1532 01:08:34,039 --> 01:08:31,799 cleansing and things just something's 1533 01:08:36,079 --> 01:08:34,049 different now something's not right d do 1534 01:08:38,390 --> 01:08:36,089 you notice anything and it's nice to 1535 01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:38,400 have people you have to have people that 1536 01:08:41,599 --> 01:08:40,290 can tell you yeah there's something's 1537 01:08:44,050 --> 01:08:41,609 not right you did pick up something 1538 01:08:46,970 --> 01:08:44,060 because that you're not seeing yeah and 1539 01:08:49,010 --> 01:08:46,980 you know and it's that kind of book and 1540 01:08:51,769 --> 01:08:49,020 it also tells you how to start opening 1541 01:08:54,709 --> 01:08:51,779 and and gives us some skills and and 1542 01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:54,719 what what to do to understand what 1543 01:08:58,010 --> 01:08:55,890 you're what you're doing things to look 1544 01:09:00,490 --> 01:08:58,020 for know that when you start doing this 1545 01:09:02,780 --> 01:09:00,500 the hard part is not actually 1546 01:09:05,090 --> 01:09:02,790 communicating with the spirits the hard 1547 01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:05,100 part is not communicating with them the 1548 01:09:10,010 --> 01:09:07,410 hard part is turning it off well select 1549 01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:10,020 suitable yeah and and you gotta 1550 01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:11,489 understand that you're gonna start 1551 01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:12,810 blowing up cell phones you're going to 1552 01:09:16,490 --> 01:09:14,850 blow up TVs you're going to blow up your 1553 01:09:18,620 --> 01:09:16,500 microwave oven you're going to blow up 1554 01:09:20,510 --> 01:09:18,630 light bulbs things are going things are 1555 01:09:21,590 --> 01:09:20,520 going to happen because you're turning 1556 01:09:23,180 --> 01:09:21,600 on the light of your trailer on the 1557 01:09:25,999 --> 01:09:23,190 lighthouse and you're going to start 1558 01:09:27,650 --> 01:09:26,009 attracting mobs and when the malls come 1559 01:09:29,209 --> 01:09:27,660 in and you got to understand they're not 1560 01:09:30,709 --> 01:09:29,219 there necessarily to hurt you too but 1561 01:09:33,229 --> 01:09:30,719 they can be annoying they can be 1562 01:09:34,729 --> 01:09:33,239 disruptive and we all have lives we want 1563 01:09:36,620 --> 01:09:34,739 to go to work or you know you've got 1564 01:09:38,870 --> 01:09:36,630 kids got to go to soccer practice you 1565 01:09:42,470 --> 01:09:38,880 don't need the car battery dying on the 1566 01:09:44,539 --> 01:09:42,480 way tonight well there are real things 1567 01:09:48,140 --> 01:09:44,549 to think about it as well you know 1568 01:09:49,670 --> 01:09:48,150 social ramifications work you know how 1569 01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:49,680 people are going to perceive you how 1570 01:09:54,229 --> 01:09:51,930 clergy will perceive you things like 1571 01:09:56,689 --> 01:09:54,239 that it discusses in addresses how to 1572 01:09:59,090 --> 01:09:56,699 address those people skeptics the whole 1573 01:10:01,760 --> 01:09:59,100 nine yards it's a fun read it's really 1574 01:10:04,850 --> 01:10:01,770 good I think it sounds like a boy sounds 1575 01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:04,860 like a pretty practical guide but yeah 1576 01:10:09,110 --> 01:10:07,530 so go on go on Jeff's website and check 1577 01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:09,120 out his book also there's information 1578 01:10:13,459 --> 01:10:10,170 there 1579 01:10:18,979 --> 01:10:13,469 out Jeff is background and also Jeff 1580 01:10:21,169 --> 01:10:18,989 does private readings and that website 1581 01:10:23,780 --> 01:10:21,179 will tell you how that works now if you 1582 01:10:27,380 --> 01:10:23,790 could you see you see people in person 1583 01:10:28,930 --> 01:10:27,390 and you also do phone readings right so 1584 01:10:32,930 --> 01:10:28,940 you could actually do a reading for 1585 01:10:36,350 --> 01:10:32,940 anybody from anywhere right I do phone 1586 01:10:39,590 --> 01:10:36,360 and in-person ideas gallery events and 1587 01:10:42,020 --> 01:10:39,600 lectures as well and absolutely I can I 1588 01:10:43,669 --> 01:10:42,030 can do this I do a lot of most of my 1589 01:10:47,330 --> 01:10:43,679 clients are over the phone because I 1590 01:10:49,180 --> 01:10:47,340 can't be everywhere at once so they all 1591 01:10:52,189 --> 01:10:49,190 do phone rings and sessions with them 1592 01:10:54,500 --> 01:10:52,199 also get into numerology to a big 1593 01:10:56,030 --> 01:10:54,510 numerologist which I find really 1594 01:11:00,169 --> 01:10:56,040 fascinating that's a whole new school 1595 01:11:02,419 --> 01:11:00,179 there yeah absolutely now you know you 1596 01:11:06,200 --> 01:11:02,429 um I know you've been using your your 1597 01:11:08,060 --> 01:11:06,210 you know your sort of analytical side to 1598 01:11:12,169 --> 01:11:08,070 do this to do this talk show and you're 1599 01:11:15,620 --> 01:11:12,179 sort of instructional side and using 1600 01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:15,630 your psychic mediumship probably comes 1601 01:11:21,110 --> 01:11:18,090 from a different place so if I could 1602 01:11:24,380 --> 01:11:21,120 prevail on you and ask you to switch to 1603 01:11:29,270 --> 01:11:24,390 that side for a moment and tell me is 1604 01:11:33,290 --> 01:11:29,280 there anything that you're seeing about 1605 01:11:35,689 --> 01:11:33,300 me or a burning something that you want 1606 01:11:39,110 --> 01:11:35,699 to say to the listeners at what would 1607 01:11:40,820 --> 01:11:39,120 work best for you yeah sure let me just 1608 01:11:43,310 --> 01:11:40,830 go ahead and switch gears on you for a 1609 01:11:46,250 --> 01:11:43,320 minute here I just gonna throw a couple 1610 01:11:48,050 --> 01:11:46,260 things at you but I'm picking up from 1611 01:11:49,220 --> 01:11:48,060 you just have a min it's interesting 1612 01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:49,230 because we did have a conversation 1613 01:11:53,390 --> 01:11:51,330 earlier today and I want people to know 1614 01:11:55,400 --> 01:11:53,400 I don't go looking people up on facebook 1615 01:11:57,350 --> 01:11:55,410 I don't have that great a memory I can't 1616 01:12:00,020 --> 01:11:57,360 remember whatever breakfast so I don't I 1617 01:12:01,850 --> 01:12:00,030 don't memorize memorize people's 1618 01:12:05,150 --> 01:12:01,860 genealogical history or anything like 1619 01:12:07,850 --> 01:12:05,160 that nor do I research it but like with 1620 01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:07,860 you I've got there's a male entity with 1621 01:12:12,020 --> 01:12:10,050 that that watches over you and this is 1622 01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:12,030 an older male I don't know if you lost 1623 01:12:16,400 --> 01:12:13,890 your father or not but it's it's a 1624 01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:16,410 father like type figure and there's a 1625 01:12:21,380 --> 01:12:18,570 tea that's associated the letter T is 1626 01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:21,390 associated with them also this is this 1627 01:12:24,859 --> 01:12:23,610 was someone who 1628 01:12:26,689 --> 01:12:24,869 right now my body's getting hot which 1629 01:12:28,609 --> 01:12:26,699 usually indicates that this was someone 1630 01:12:35,540 --> 01:12:28,619 who was a laborer or who enjoy the 1631 01:12:37,640 --> 01:12:35,550 outdoors also there's a my left side is 1632 01:12:39,649 --> 01:12:37,650 starting to to give me a message when 1633 01:12:41,930 --> 01:12:39,659 that usually that will mean the person 1634 01:12:43,399 --> 01:12:41,940 was left-handed or they they were they 1635 01:12:45,890 --> 01:12:43,409 had a stroke something that affected 1636 01:12:49,850 --> 01:12:45,900 their left side or had mobility problems 1637 01:12:57,340 --> 01:12:49,860 with their left side this is also a man 1638 01:13:00,470 --> 01:12:57,350 of faith and connected to classic cars 1639 01:13:03,590 --> 01:13:00,480 they're taking me about to the 50s like 1640 01:13:05,510 --> 01:13:03,600 the 50s style the big rounded and 1641 01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:05,520 there's a yellow it's a yellow classic 1642 01:13:10,609 --> 01:13:09,449 type car they just shown to me I don't 1643 01:13:12,109 --> 01:13:10,619 know if any of that resonates with you 1644 01:13:20,419 --> 01:13:12,119 I'm also getting an April birthday in 1645 01:13:24,010 --> 01:13:20,429 April crossing hmm not sure now I did my 1646 01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:24,020 dad did pass just a couple years ago and 1647 01:13:31,490 --> 01:13:28,650 he passed in March so you know fairly 1648 01:13:36,439 --> 01:13:31,500 close to the springtime no there wasn't 1649 01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:36,449 a tea associated with his name but then 1650 01:13:44,270 --> 01:13:39,330 you mention the classic cars and my dad 1651 01:13:47,270 --> 01:13:44,280 was a car dealer and he we did have a 1652 01:13:52,100 --> 01:13:47,280 lot of cars around and you know he would 1653 01:13:56,590 --> 01:13:52,110 buy you know the the older cool you know 1654 01:14:01,640 --> 01:13:56,600 55 Chevy's and different doors like that 1655 01:14:05,300 --> 01:14:01,650 but what uh what was interesting was 1656 01:14:11,050 --> 01:14:05,310 when you say classic cars the first 1657 01:14:14,300 --> 01:14:11,060 thing I thought of was he had a Model T 1658 01:14:17,530 --> 01:14:14,310 well said T and his name and classic 1659 01:14:20,060 --> 01:14:17,540 cars that's a fraud popped into my head 1660 01:14:22,070 --> 01:14:20,070 because that's that he was big with the 1661 01:14:26,180 --> 01:14:22,080 car use like talk about the classic cars 1662 01:14:32,540 --> 01:14:26,190 talk about the class cars and then also 1663 01:14:34,270 --> 01:14:32,550 with the prion C can get him to wait ok 1664 01:14:37,410 --> 01:14:34,280 would you know was he a mayor of fate 1665 01:14:40,950 --> 01:14:37,420 yeah it was ok yeah 1666 01:14:43,880 --> 01:14:40,960 so he's wanting to relate that to you 1667 01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:43,890 for some reason but we like that to me 1668 01:14:51,419 --> 01:14:47,770 yeah that either his faith got stronger 1669 01:14:53,580 --> 01:14:51,429 after he crossed or that he wants you to 1670 01:14:56,880 --> 01:14:53,590 know he's he's out like he's right with 1671 01:15:01,310 --> 01:14:56,890 God for some reason Jesus woman I'll 1672 01:15:07,650 --> 01:15:01,320 tell you about that because my parents 1673 01:15:10,470 --> 01:15:07,660 when we got to be in high school we used 1674 01:15:12,240 --> 01:15:10,480 to go to church every sunday sunday 1675 01:15:16,620 --> 01:15:12,250 morning and sunday night brought up in 1676 01:15:18,450 --> 01:15:16,630 the southern baptist church and they 1677 01:15:19,860 --> 01:15:18,460 used to go with us and when we got in 1678 01:15:22,979 --> 01:15:19,870 high school you know they set us down 1679 01:15:25,860 --> 01:15:22,989 and they said we've decided we're not 1680 01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:25,870 going to church anymore now you know 1681 01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:28,210 it's up to you whether you you're old 1682 01:15:32,820 --> 01:15:30,610 enough to decide for yourself whether 1683 01:15:34,620 --> 01:15:32,830 you want to go or not well we all 1684 01:15:37,380 --> 01:15:34,630 continue to go because it was a big 1685 01:15:39,209 --> 01:15:37,390 social thing you know and we're when you 1686 01:15:42,060 --> 01:15:39,219 grow up in the south I mean all the kids 1687 01:15:44,070 --> 01:15:42,070 go to church and a lot of activities and 1688 01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:44,080 things so you know we continue to go 1689 01:15:51,209 --> 01:15:47,770 well when my dad passed a couple years 1690 01:15:55,590 --> 01:15:51,219 ago of course I went back for the 1691 01:15:58,080 --> 01:15:55,600 funeral and they had this minister that 1692 01:15:59,700 --> 01:15:58,090 my parents lived out on the highway 1693 01:16:03,390 --> 01:15:59,710 outside of town I grew up in a small 1694 01:16:04,770 --> 01:16:03,400 town in southeastern Oklahoma and my 1695 01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:04,780 parents lived down on the highway and 1696 01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:07,650 right across the street was a church 1697 01:16:16,169 --> 01:16:13,290 antioch baptist church and so my family 1698 01:16:20,820 --> 01:16:16,179 asked that minister because he knew my 1699 01:16:23,930 --> 01:16:20,830 dad and they had chatted and stuff a lot 1700 01:16:28,919 --> 01:16:23,940 to be to officiate at the funeral and 1701 01:16:32,580 --> 01:16:28,929 when at the funeral I got pissed off if 1702 01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:32,590 i can say that on the air because he 1703 01:16:38,580 --> 01:16:35,050 kept talking about like trying to make 1704 01:16:41,580 --> 01:16:38,590 excuses about my dad not going to church 1705 01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:41,590 and saying that well i know that he 1706 01:16:47,580 --> 01:16:44,770 really was a believer you know and but 1707 01:16:49,680 --> 01:16:47,590 he kept bringing it up that he didn't go 1708 01:16:51,270 --> 01:16:49,690 to church and things like that and it 1709 01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:51,280 really kind of made me mad 1710 01:16:57,330 --> 01:16:55,690 had you know and so that's funny that 1711 01:17:03,270 --> 01:16:57,340 that would be what he would be bringing 1712 01:17:05,819 --> 01:17:03,280 up it's interesting yeah he have on bad 1713 01:17:09,450 --> 01:17:05,829 eyesight or glaucoma or dealer glasses 1714 01:17:10,770 --> 01:17:09,460 cuz there's are hopeful okay because 1715 01:17:12,660 --> 01:17:10,780 that's there's an eye thing that he's 1716 01:17:15,120 --> 01:17:12,670 shown me yeah this is that's just his 1717 01:17:17,729 --> 01:17:15,130 way of saying yeah it's him the other 1718 01:17:20,609 --> 01:17:17,739 thing was the other thing was that when 1719 01:17:25,740 --> 01:17:20,619 he really has health really declined my 1720 01:17:28,140 --> 01:17:25,750 dad got shingles in his eyes and I was 1721 01:17:31,410 --> 01:17:28,150 the most painful thing and of course he 1722 01:17:34,799 --> 01:17:31,420 was already in his 80s when that 1723 01:17:38,010 --> 01:17:34,809 happened and his health just took a 1724 01:17:39,569 --> 01:17:38,020 nosedive he never really recovered from 1725 01:17:43,529 --> 01:17:39,579 that which was really weird because he 1726 01:17:45,689 --> 01:17:43,539 was so active and you know always very 1727 01:17:49,979 --> 01:17:45,699 physical and outdoors just like you said 1728 01:17:52,709 --> 01:17:49,989 he want to do a lot of stuff so it was a 1729 01:17:57,180 --> 01:17:52,719 yeah interesting because that really was 1730 01:18:01,290 --> 01:17:57,190 sort of the beginning of the end we had 1731 01:18:04,649 --> 01:18:01,300 that I problem Oh interesting yeah so 1732 01:18:07,109 --> 01:18:04,659 yeah this has got to be him then and so 1733 01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:07,119 yeah is your message is that that he's 1734 01:18:10,890 --> 01:18:09,010 watching over he's also he also wants 1735 01:18:13,549 --> 01:18:10,900 you to know that you are still his 1736 01:18:23,399 --> 01:18:13,559 little girl and he's proud of you oh 1737 01:18:29,129 --> 01:18:23,409 sweet um can I ask one question I lost 1738 01:18:32,779 --> 01:18:29,139 my daughter um nearly 10 years ago have 1739 01:18:38,370 --> 01:18:32,789 they met up uh he lost your daughter 1740 01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:38,380 yeah okay um I'm going to say yes I 1741 01:18:44,010 --> 01:18:41,770 don't have her coming through and I'm 1742 01:18:46,770 --> 01:18:44,020 kind of getting a message from him that 1743 01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:46,780 this would not be the forum this again 1744 01:18:51,720 --> 01:18:49,090 this will be a huge emotional thing and 1745 01:18:54,180 --> 01:18:51,730 it's not kind of almost not like a 1746 01:18:57,870 --> 01:18:54,190 public radio kind of thing that it'd be 1747 01:19:00,839 --> 01:18:57,880 normal yeah but he wants you yes she's 1748 01:19:04,210 --> 01:19:00,849 with him they always are I can say that 1749 01:19:06,910 --> 01:19:04,220 by default that family always 1750 01:19:09,460 --> 01:19:06,920 together on the other side he is saying 1751 01:19:12,520 --> 01:19:09,470 that he's also the greeter for the 1752 01:19:16,570 --> 01:19:12,530 family it this is this is like he's the 1753 01:19:19,180 --> 01:19:16,580 patriarch is what he's saying that this 1754 01:19:21,190 --> 01:19:19,190 is and and so he's claiming everybody 1755 01:19:24,790 --> 01:19:21,200 which is weird because normally the 1756 01:19:26,440 --> 01:19:24,800 females will I'm and so it's odd for the 1757 01:19:29,740 --> 01:19:26,450 mail to be saying i'm watching over 1758 01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:29,750 everybody everybody is mine and so he's 1759 01:19:35,650 --> 01:19:31,850 it's just like he's validating that yes 1760 01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:35,660 she's there with him and and he cares 1761 01:19:39,670 --> 01:19:37,730 for her as much as he does you it's like 1762 01:19:41,950 --> 01:19:39,680 it's almost like he's saying he's 1763 01:19:46,180 --> 01:19:41,960 wanting to say that she's as much a 1764 01:19:48,640 --> 01:19:46,190 daughter to him as you are yeah that's 1765 01:19:51,850 --> 01:19:48,650 so wrong yeah that's interesting too 1766 01:19:57,730 --> 01:19:51,860 because I have her daughter and I feel 1767 01:20:00,910 --> 01:19:57,740 that way about her oh wow oh okay well 1768 01:20:02,500 --> 01:20:00,920 that that that's pretty cool that that 1769 01:20:06,340 --> 01:20:02,510 makes a lot of sense that because he's 1770 01:20:09,370 --> 01:20:06,350 but he's this is an intelligent man by 1771 01:20:11,800 --> 01:20:09,380 the way yeah it wasn't it's funny that 1772 01:20:14,890 --> 01:20:11,810 you said he's the greeter because I mean 1773 01:20:17,380 --> 01:20:14,900 he was like you know mr. person i won't 1774 01:20:21,070 --> 01:20:17,390 i mean my god he was a car salesman you 1775 01:20:23,320 --> 01:20:21,080 know and everybody knew i'm all over the 1776 01:20:25,990 --> 01:20:23,330 place and you know he was always the 1777 01:20:27,790 --> 01:20:26,000 talker always the greeter i'm surprised 1778 01:20:31,900 --> 01:20:27,800 after he retired he and get a job at 1779 01:20:35,500 --> 01:20:31,910 Walmart as the greeter but yeah he 1780 01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:35,510 wasn't warning bubbles yeah yeah he was 1781 01:20:40,120 --> 01:20:38,690 very very friendly friendly guy but 1782 01:20:43,450 --> 01:20:40,130 anyway well that's really interesting 1783 01:20:45,550 --> 01:20:43,460 that you know everything that you said 1784 01:20:47,290 --> 01:20:45,560 made sense it kind of threw me at the 1785 01:20:51,370 --> 01:20:47,300 beginning when you said there's a tea 1786 01:20:52,960 --> 01:20:51,380 associated with his name and until you 1787 01:20:54,880 --> 01:20:52,970 said the classic cars and of course a 1788 01:20:57,280 --> 01:20:54,890 first car that popped in my head was the 1789 01:21:01,990 --> 01:20:57,290 model t see edit for a long long time 1790 01:21:07,510 --> 01:21:02,000 and but there was always cars around our 1791 01:21:09,430 --> 01:21:07,520 place and always always he's always 1792 01:21:12,160 --> 01:21:09,440 picking up a car here or picking up a 1793 01:21:15,910 --> 01:21:12,170 car there he had you know everything 1794 01:21:17,739 --> 01:21:15,920 from Corvettes to like I said 55 Chevy's 1795 01:21:19,179 --> 01:21:17,749 to whatever 1796 01:21:23,529 --> 01:21:19,189 anyway that's interesting because it was 1797 01:21:26,079 --> 01:21:23,539 really good so that's an example of some 1798 01:21:30,219 --> 01:21:26,089 of what you do when people either come 1799 01:21:33,849 --> 01:21:30,229 to see you or to schedule phone reading 1800 01:21:35,919 --> 01:21:33,859 with you now what when you schedule a 1801 01:21:39,629 --> 01:21:35,929 reading is there a long waiting period 1802 01:21:42,459 --> 01:21:39,639 and how long is the reading usually I 1803 01:21:46,419 --> 01:21:42,469 usually actually do a half hour i 1804 01:21:48,809 --> 01:21:46,429 recommend usually at least an hour but I 1805 01:21:52,299 --> 01:21:48,819 can I can do half-hour sessions it 1806 01:21:54,369 --> 01:21:52,309 whatever people want and it's usually 1807 01:21:57,069 --> 01:21:54,379 i'm booked out of here about a week and 1808 01:22:01,389 --> 01:21:57,079 a half or so i can squeeze in an ad yeah 1809 01:22:05,319 --> 01:22:01,399 yeah yeah and now is there is it are 1810 01:22:07,749 --> 01:22:05,329 some people just easier than others to 1811 01:22:10,599 --> 01:22:07,759 read or does it depend on whoo-hoo it is 1812 01:22:12,219 --> 01:22:10,609 on the other side yeah yeah it's just 1813 01:22:13,719 --> 01:22:12,229 depends on who's on the other side the 1814 01:22:15,909 --> 01:22:13,729 person when I'm doing the session with 1815 01:22:18,909 --> 01:22:15,919 have done really anything to do with it 1816 01:22:20,199 --> 01:22:18,919 no I've had I had calorie events and 1817 01:22:21,849 --> 01:22:20,209 what have you know I've got oh by the 1818 01:22:23,499 --> 01:22:21,859 way we got one coming up on Valentine's 1819 01:22:26,559 --> 01:22:23,509 Day then so if you're going to be in 1820 01:22:27,879 --> 01:22:26,569 Ohio come see us informations on the 1821 01:22:30,189 --> 01:22:27,889 website and you can purchase tickets 1822 01:22:31,839 --> 01:22:30,199 through my website as well it's a dinner 1823 01:22:33,369 --> 01:22:31,849 we're doing a dinner on Valentine's Day 1824 01:22:35,139 --> 01:22:33,379 as well as calorie reading in numerology 1825 01:22:40,179 --> 01:22:35,149 for everybody so it's gonna be a fun 1826 01:22:42,849 --> 01:22:40,189 event here no ring yeah but no I it's 1827 01:22:45,849 --> 01:22:42,859 interesting what are you physically in 1828 01:22:48,579 --> 01:22:45,859 Ohio Mount Vernon Ohio about an hour 1829 01:22:51,399 --> 01:22:48,589 north of Columbus hour north of Columbus 1830 01:22:53,649 --> 01:22:51,409 okay great we put your finger smack-dab 1831 01:22:57,639 --> 01:22:53,659 in the middle of state of Ohio that's 1832 01:23:01,989 --> 01:22:57,649 pretty much where I'm at right great is 1833 01:23:05,409 --> 01:23:01,999 that a small city yeah it's a small town 1834 01:23:08,499 --> 01:23:05,419 about 20,000 people and need liquidity 1835 01:23:09,789 --> 01:23:08,509 and Beth Deering is real well known here 1836 01:23:11,949 --> 01:23:09,799 she's going to be there at the event as 1837 01:23:15,129 --> 01:23:11,959 well so you got two psychics for the 1838 01:23:17,109 --> 01:23:15,139 price of one that night and with your 1839 01:23:21,069 --> 01:23:17,119 choice of vegetables are near filet 1840 01:23:25,029 --> 01:23:21,079 mignon so it's pretty good there's gonna 1841 01:23:28,329 --> 01:23:25,039 be a fun way but what it looks like we 1842 01:23:30,099 --> 01:23:28,339 have about six minutes or so left and 1843 01:23:31,390 --> 01:23:30,109 one of the things that I know that 1844 01:23:33,040 --> 01:23:31,400 people in the chat room wearing 1845 01:23:35,590 --> 01:23:33,050 asking about and if we didn't get into 1846 01:23:38,830 --> 01:23:35,600 too much now we did talk about your time 1847 01:23:41,710 --> 01:23:38,840 as a cop and but people were wanting to 1848 01:23:46,090 --> 01:23:41,720 know that since you've left police work 1849 01:23:49,960 --> 01:23:46,100 do you ever assist in cases murder case 1850 01:23:53,710 --> 01:23:49,970 is missing people here are service 1851 01:23:56,550 --> 01:23:53,720 departments yeah it's it's interesting I 1852 01:24:01,330 --> 01:23:56,560 have been called in to assist on cases 1853 01:24:02,800 --> 01:24:01,340 either and it's funny because I did it's 1854 01:24:04,660 --> 01:24:02,810 it's an interesting field because when 1855 01:24:07,480 --> 01:24:04,670 people see a missing person case for 1856 01:24:09,370 --> 01:24:07,490 instance on TV they wanted that have a 1857 01:24:12,700 --> 01:24:09,380 gift that I know they always want to 1858 01:24:14,230 --> 01:24:12,710 help and law enforcement is very very 1859 01:24:15,970 --> 01:24:14,240 standoffish when it comes to that 1860 01:24:17,920 --> 01:24:15,980 because what happens is when these 1861 01:24:20,350 --> 01:24:17,930 things air on television they get four 1862 01:24:22,150 --> 01:24:20,360 hundred phone calls from people with all 1863 01:24:24,580 --> 01:24:22,160 kinds of different theories on what 1864 01:24:26,170 --> 01:24:24,590 happened claiming to be psychic and so 1865 01:24:29,440 --> 01:24:26,180 they just don't follow up on it they 1866 01:24:30,460 --> 01:24:29,450 can't if someone is gifted out there and 1867 01:24:33,220 --> 01:24:30,470 they want to get into law enforcement 1868 01:24:35,230 --> 01:24:33,230 and assisting them what I do is I 1869 01:24:36,730 --> 01:24:35,240 encourage them to go out and establish a 1870 01:24:39,130 --> 01:24:36,740 relationship with an officer on the 1871 01:24:41,260 --> 01:24:39,140 department and say hey I have this gift 1872 01:24:43,390 --> 01:24:41,270 you guys ever need any help give me a 1873 01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:43,400 shout or you know come on come on and 1874 01:24:47,350 --> 01:24:44,810 sit and let me buy you a cup of coffee 1875 01:24:51,160 --> 01:24:47,360 and let me let me show you what I can do 1876 01:24:52,570 --> 01:24:51,170 and maybe that'll help now my 1877 01:24:54,070 --> 01:24:52,580 association with law enforcement was 1878 01:24:55,900 --> 01:24:54,080 because of my background about you guys 1879 01:24:58,870 --> 01:24:55,910 that were that were in the field and 1880 01:25:00,610 --> 01:24:58,880 that's how I got called in but like for 1881 01:25:03,550 --> 01:25:00,620 instance best also assist law 1882 01:25:05,950 --> 01:25:03,560 enforcement but she was actually put in 1883 01:25:08,410 --> 01:25:05,960 a one of the stone to the detectives 1884 01:25:11,170 --> 01:25:08,420 here in town believed in what she'd done 1885 01:25:13,000 --> 01:25:11,180 and her gift and so they said the other 1886 01:25:14,320 --> 01:25:13,010 guys were a part of me did you so what 1887 01:25:17,440 --> 01:25:14,330 they did was they put her in a patrol 1888 01:25:19,900 --> 01:25:17,450 car took around two locations where 1889 01:25:23,200 --> 01:25:19,910 either a homicide or a suicide had 1890 01:25:25,600 --> 01:25:23,210 occurred or nothing had occurred and she 1891 01:25:27,280 --> 01:25:25,610 was told to basically they tested her I 1892 01:25:29,380 --> 01:25:27,290 said give us your impression or what 1893 01:25:31,240 --> 01:25:29,390 happened here and she would say nothing 1894 01:25:32,980 --> 01:25:31,250 nothing happened here they're like okay 1895 01:25:35,440 --> 01:25:32,990 then they took her to another location 1896 01:25:37,770 --> 01:25:35,450 what happened here is like this one this 1897 01:25:40,690 --> 01:25:37,780 one's ugly there was a suicide here or 1898 01:25:44,440 --> 01:25:40,700 there was a homicide here and she nailed 1899 01:25:45,250 --> 01:25:44,450 it well this this helped establish a 1900 01:25:46,240 --> 01:25:45,260 rapport 1901 01:25:48,550 --> 01:25:46,250 this is not something someone can 1902 01:25:50,230 --> 01:25:48,560 approach law enforcement video say hey 1903 01:25:51,850 --> 01:25:50,240 take me around and test me it doesn't 1904 01:25:52,930 --> 01:25:51,860 work like that you have to build a 1905 01:25:55,420 --> 01:25:52,940 rapport you have to build up your 1906 01:25:57,010 --> 01:25:55,430 reputation and your credibility before 1907 01:25:59,080 --> 01:25:57,020 they'll ask you to participate in these 1908 01:26:01,540 --> 01:25:59,090 types of things because one they also 1909 01:26:02,770 --> 01:26:01,550 need to know your character they need to 1910 01:26:04,210 --> 01:26:02,780 know your background they're going to 1911 01:26:05,470 --> 01:26:04,220 investigate you they're going to find 1912 01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:05,480 out if you've been involved in drugs 1913 01:26:10,390 --> 01:26:08,570 criminal activity because you may wind 1914 01:26:12,130 --> 01:26:10,400 up becoming privy to some information 1915 01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:12,140 that may not be public to a case and 1916 01:26:16,750 --> 01:26:13,850 they need to know that you're not going 1917 01:26:18,430 --> 01:26:16,760 to go out and tell people the this is 1918 01:26:21,220 --> 01:26:18,440 not where you get your 15 minutes of 1919 01:26:22,840 --> 01:26:21,230 fame most of the time the public will 1920 01:26:24,820 --> 01:26:22,850 not know that you're involved nor are 1921 01:26:28,180 --> 01:26:24,830 you supposed to speak about it because 1922 01:26:30,070 --> 01:26:28,190 of the public perception of and and how 1923 01:26:32,440 --> 01:26:30,080 they interact with law enforcement the 1924 01:26:35,040 --> 01:26:32,450 law enforcement administration doesn't 1925 01:26:38,140 --> 01:26:35,050 want the public to think that they're so 1926 01:26:40,750 --> 01:26:38,150 lost for clues that they're going to go 1927 01:26:41,950 --> 01:26:40,760 to a psychic it makes them look bad 1928 01:26:43,930 --> 01:26:41,960 makes them look like they don't know 1929 01:26:45,970 --> 01:26:43,940 what the one so they don't tell they 1930 01:26:47,860 --> 01:26:45,980 don't want any of that made public so 1931 01:26:49,180 --> 01:26:47,870 it's one of those things where if you do 1932 01:26:52,000 --> 01:26:49,190 get involved they're going to tell you 1933 01:26:54,760 --> 01:26:52,010 don't tell anybody plus you can also be 1934 01:26:56,620 --> 01:26:54,770 put yourself at risk because if you're 1935 01:26:58,750 --> 01:26:56,630 involved in say a missing person case 1936 01:27:00,640 --> 01:26:58,760 that turns out to be a homicide there's 1937 01:27:01,870 --> 01:27:00,650 usually a person running around out 1938 01:27:05,830 --> 01:27:01,880 there that committed the act that 1939 01:27:07,120 --> 01:27:05,840 doesn't want to be found look at this so 1940 01:27:10,600 --> 01:27:07,130 they're not going to be a very big fan 1941 01:27:13,600 --> 01:27:10,610 of yours and if you go no talking about 1942 01:27:16,180 --> 01:27:13,610 it publicly you can you you're not a cop 1943 01:27:18,130 --> 01:27:16,190 you're not an officer and you don't get 1944 01:27:20,680 --> 01:27:18,140 paid for this and these cases are very 1945 01:27:22,990 --> 01:27:20,690 time-consuming they're very energy told 1946 01:27:26,080 --> 01:27:23,000 so I tell people that are getting into 1947 01:27:27,910 --> 01:27:26,090 this to shy away from those not to 1948 01:27:30,250 --> 01:27:27,920 mention these cases can involve a lot of 1949 01:27:31,810 --> 01:27:30,260 negative energy and entities with them 1950 01:27:33,100 --> 01:27:31,820 because there's usually not a whole lot 1951 01:27:35,860 --> 01:27:33,110 of good things that went down during a 1952 01:27:39,370 --> 01:27:35,870 suicide or homicide so you can be fools 1953 01:27:41,290 --> 01:27:39,380 to some very ugly stuff spiritually so 1954 01:27:43,720 --> 01:27:41,300 it's it's one of those things where I 1955 01:27:45,430 --> 01:27:43,730 know everyone wants to help and bottom 1956 01:27:47,320 --> 01:27:45,440 line is the only thing law enforcement 1957 01:27:50,170 --> 01:27:47,330 would want out of you is where is the 1958 01:27:52,180 --> 01:27:50,180 body they don't care what you saw go 1959 01:27:53,800 --> 01:27:52,190 down they know what went down they just 1960 01:27:56,230 --> 01:27:53,810 need to know where the body is so unless 1961 01:27:58,310 --> 01:27:56,240 you can point them to a location on the 1962 01:28:00,050 --> 01:27:58,320 map then 1963 01:28:01,730 --> 01:28:00,060 save your breath save your energy don't 1964 01:28:03,350 --> 01:28:01,740 get involved because that's what they 1965 01:28:04,730 --> 01:28:03,360 need they don't need they don't need 1966 01:28:06,680 --> 01:28:04,740 your rundown play by play of what 1967 01:28:09,830 --> 01:28:06,690 happened they already know or they'll 1968 01:28:11,510 --> 01:28:09,840 find out so there's a lot of there's a 1969 01:28:13,520 --> 01:28:11,520 lot of different politics involved when 1970 01:28:15,020 --> 01:28:13,530 you get into these types of events so 1971 01:28:16,790 --> 01:28:15,030 that's it's one of those things where 1972 01:28:17,960 --> 01:28:16,800 there's a lot of other things you can do 1973 01:28:20,120 --> 01:28:17,970 with your psychic abilities than that 1974 01:28:22,100 --> 01:28:20,130 that'll help a lot more people know 1975 01:28:25,430 --> 01:28:22,110 that's what won't encourage people to do 1976 01:28:29,300 --> 01:28:25,440 through well gosh it's really been great 1977 01:28:31,220 --> 01:28:29,310 having you on I really appreciate you 1978 01:28:34,310 --> 01:28:31,230 and I appreciate you moving this the 1979 01:28:38,230 --> 01:28:34,320 schedule last week I was out sick with 1980 01:28:41,510 --> 01:28:38,240 that horrid flu that everybody's had and 1981 01:28:44,300 --> 01:28:41,520 so you kindly agreed to reschedule so 1982 01:28:48,140 --> 01:28:44,310 I'm really happy and I really appreciate 1983 01:28:52,220 --> 01:28:48,150 you coming on and sharing your knowledge 1984 01:28:53,360 --> 01:28:52,230 with us yeah I appreciate coming on and 1985 01:28:55,310 --> 01:28:53,370 thank you so much I had a great time 1986 01:28:59,180 --> 01:28:55,320 that our two have really went for and by 1987 01:29:02,720 --> 01:28:59,190 I can't believe it yeah it really did it 1988 01:29:04,310 --> 01:29:02,730 really did so I want to just thank 1989 01:29:07,550 --> 01:29:04,320 everybody for listening and I hope you 1990 01:29:11,390 --> 01:29:07,560 join us next week and go to Jeff Allen's 1991 01:29:16,760 --> 01:29:11,400 website or just google Jeff GE 0 FF 1992 01:29:19,310 --> 01:29:16,770 allen a llen and check them out is a 1993 01:29:41,440 --> 01:29:19,320 talented guy